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Android is struggling to keep its market share in the United States, as Apple continues to take over in the market. But, despite Android as a whole losing ground, Google Pixel phones are becoming a bigger slice of the US market.

Counterpoint Research reports that, in Q2 2023, US smartphone shipments dropped by 24% year-over-year. That includes both iPhones and Android phones, and virtually every brand saw a drop in shipments. Samsung saw US shipments drop by 37% while Motorola saw a 17% drop. TCL saw the biggest decline at just shy of 70% year-over-year, and even Apple saw a 6% drop.

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[–] ocassionallyaduck@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Google keeps locking tons of Android features away behind their own privatized software stack.

Better for Google, but they are cutting their nose to spite their face here, as Android as a whole suffers for it.

Stuff like call screening in the android dialer would be possible on any brand of device. But no, pixel only.

The pixels have the very best android experience. It comes close to iPhone. But pixels aren't the whole market. Overall Google is trying to claw back control of the entire platform and I hate it.

[–] SafetyGoggles@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Stuff like call screening in the android dialer would be possible on any brand of device. But no, pixel only.

Other OEMs also have their own features that are exclusive to their own phones. They can also implement them into AOSP, but they don't. Instead, they keep the features to their own devices. A lot of times when there's a new feature on Android in general, more often than not you'll see comments like "Samsung had this since years ago".

So if other OEMs are allowed to have platform specific features, Google is allowed to have theirs too. Or in other words, if you want to hold Google responsible for holding back Android, you have to also hold other OEMs responsible too.

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[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago (8 children)

The pixels have the very best android experience.

I agree with the rest of your post, but not this. The best android experience to me is the one that isn't the most locked down, but the one that is most open and customisable - Samsung. I've got a few pixels, and funnily enough my last Pixel I owned was what lead me to switch to an iPhone. I figured if I was going to have a heavily locked down non-customisable phone, it may as well be the one that's the best at it, which is the iPhone.

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[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's still 45% marketshare Android vs 55% iOS. With the way the title reads, you'd think Android was down in the single digits and barely hanging on.

Personally I just don't see how anyone uses iOS. The iPhone I have is just awful. The UI is clunky and I'm absolutely baffled why this stupid phone weighs so much. That's not a good thing, damn it. My Samsung is infinitely better device in my opinion. But I'd still love to see a third player come in. I was sad when Microsoft killed off their phone OS. It might not have been great at the time, but more competition is always better. And then if course there's also PalmOS. So sad to see such a cool OS die off.

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[–] fische_stix@reddthat.com 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Samsung and major carriers are shooting android in the foot with the bloatware. There are less and less viable android models that aren't half filled with carrier or manufacturer specific apps that can't be deleted. The pixel might be a tool of the Google devil but at least it provides the illustration of customization. iPhones are still Iphones. People they phone is pretty much the same butvthe hardware gets slightly better. Combine all that with messaging on Iphones essentially excluding android and ut becomes though to stick with anything but a Pixel or iphone. If I didn't have lots of Google stuff setup for work I might reconsider iphones, but the pixel really has made my life easier via Google big brother. If work used apple big brother I would switch.

[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

At this point google is pretty much the only company providing an Android experience that isn't shit

Anyone I've met that hasn't liked it has used a Samsung. They try so hard to be apple but they don't understand the parts that work and just create an overall bloated and shitty experience

Doesn't help that they have overpriced everything

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[–] ScrivenerX@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago (32 children)

I use a pixel and I have a hard time justifying a different phone.

Maybe things have changed but the last Samsung I had was an S7 and I didn't like it. It suffered from bloat and didn't last all that long. Battery issues and the screen started to lose sensitivity.

I've used iphones and they aren't bad, but I really dislike apple's app store and effort to control everything on my phone. Also everytime a new phone came out my old phone became next to unusable for a month.

I got a pixel 3 and loved it, now I have a pixel 6 and don't see changing my phone any time soon or going to a non-pixel phone. They last a long time, they work well with everything and the camera is excellent.

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I have a hard time justifying a different phone

A pixel doesn't have SD card slot or 3.5 mm jack. My Xperia 1V has both. There. Justified.

[–] smeeps@feddit.uk 12 points 1 year ago (15 children)

I mean most consumers don't care about those πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ

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[–] Coeus@coeus.sbs 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While I understand the appeal, those are 2 features that I don't need. Having the option would be nice though.

[–] DuncanTDP@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

I think more people should have this kind of view, and less of an all or nothing approach.

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[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The maddening thing is how much effort Samsung wastes duplicating basic gapps. Their contacts manager, calendar, etc has no real advantages over the Google ones. Just focus on the hardware and overall experience? Stop wasting time reinventing the wheel. Same with their app store. I've had an S20 for the last 4 years. Used Samsung since the S2 which I still have. And am looking at a pixel to replace it since my security updates are running out.

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[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 year ago

Thanks grapheneOS!

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

When you've got a miniscule market share it's much easier to increase it than it is when you have a much larger market share.

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[–] Transcendant@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I got a pixel 7a about 6 months ago. It's a brilliant phone, once you remove all the google shit / bloat and block all the trackers.

[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)
[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

GrapheneOS on my Pixel 5.

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[–] crab@monero.town 14 points 1 year ago (8 children)

GrapheneOS is what keeps me from switching from Pixel.

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[–] basuramannen@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Is there an Android phone that supports dual boot? I would like to have that so can use Lineage or something similar and only boot into Google android when I need to use banking app or government ID that requires the safetynet antifeture. This would free me from carrying two phones. But I suppose a locked down bootloader can not support dual boot and an unlocked will not support the safetynet antifeature.

[–] Nonononoki@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Use Magisk, it bypasses SafetyNet. No need for dual boot https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk

You must install the Universal SafetyNet Fix afterwards https://github.com/kdrag0n/safetynet-fix

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[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

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[–] ratboy@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (10 children)

My Android phone fucking blows. The one I had prior was great but I lost it. I hate the constant alerts from the apps I can't delete, I can't take up close photos anymore without it looking like shit and not focusing, the screen will flip horizontal at random times when it's got the lock screen option turned on. I don't want a Google phone, though.

Anyone have opinions on the OnePlus phones?

[–] ilickfrogs@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Apps you can't delete? Gotta be Samsung?

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago

Apps you can’t delete? Gotta be Samsung?

Pixels have about 25-30 Google apps that you can't delete.

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[–] maeries@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can disable alerts on a per app basis

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[–] Coeus@coeus.sbs 10 points 1 year ago (8 children)

A pixel with custom firmware that removes the Google is my preferred phone choice.

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[–] Gleddified@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

Can't wait for the entire cell phone market to be a monopoly...

[–] HRDS_654@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

I feel like Google really hit their stride with the Pixel 6/7 series. The 7 series especially is just such a nice phone to use and doesn't feel as cheap as previous iterations of the Pixel. It's also great value for the money. I went with the Pro and would recommend against it honestly, because while I like the extra camera and the bigger screen it really doesn't fit great in the average persons hand and the features don't really justify the cost. If I had to do it over again I would get the 7 or 7a.

[–] sloonark@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I honestly think the Pixel 5 is the best phone I have ever used. I have the P7 and I kind of wish I had stuck with the P5.

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[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Everyone wants to adopt the Apple model of hardware+software as one (because it's the most profitable). Microsoft is trying with their Surface line, Google with the Pixel, Samsung with their fully custom Android-based OS.

[–] small44@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Any phone without an sd card slot is a direct skip to me

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