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Breaking "DRM" in Polish trains [video] – 37c3 presentation (streaming.media.ccc.de)

submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by kilgore_trout@feddit.it to c/technology@lemmy.ml

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Follow up to https://kbin.social/m/technology@lemmy.ml/t/700738

cross-posted from: https://derp.foo/post/544012

There is a discussion on Hacker News, but feel free to comment here as well.

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[–] Winged_Hussar@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Wow, so many good parts in this...

Side note: I do not do any coding professionally, just self taught stuff to impressive my business coworkers - but this was really well explained.

My favorites: Default username and password for accessing the debugger on the trains computer (that apparently can't be changed)

Hard coded geofenced coordinates that would disable a train if it was being serviced at a competitors location

Absolute favorite: the incorrectly programmed date lock that would only disable the train November & December on the 21st-30th

Hopefully the company is reprimanded for this - here in the US it would probably be a slap on the wrist and nothing else.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

This would be quite a bit more than a slap on the wrist in the US, the City of New York does all its own maintenance on all its buses, railroad and subway trains.

Manufacturer interference would result in some of the most aggressive city lawyers grinding the manufacturer's headquarters into dust, legislatively.

I can't believe it'd be different at any other jurisdiction within the US.

[–] Winged_Hussar@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hmm, that's good / reassuring - hopefully we don't have to find out!

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Indeed. Luckily at least some people in power still care about quality for their citizens. Some places may not be able to afford the lawyers in spite of wanting to do the right thing, so I'm not sure what happens then.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago

The dice have just started rolling. Shit is possibly going to hit the fan real hard for Newag next year.

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[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

From the sound of them, it sounds like the polish government will take it seriously, and it can be that its going to go be an international thing too...

[–] Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Was there and that was the best talk of the day

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Was it really at 23:00 as scheduled?

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Yes. I stayed up late to watch the stream haha