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[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 120 points 10 months ago (2 children)

the fact that they actually hit the restart button was so insanely unnecessary and cruel. 60% seems high really

[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 66 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The cruelty is the point. You gotta use the whip to motivate your ‘workers’ right.

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

It's one of the classic conservative rules: "Rich people perform better for money and poor people perform better when starved."

[–] half_fiction@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Not sure what proportion of loans it accounts for, but the 60% figure probably also includes people like me who currently have $0 monthly payments. Hilariously every month it takes 3 days to "process" my "auto-debit payment" of $0 but I imagine those are all being marked as "paid" in the system.

[–] VeryNiiiice@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Be careful. Mine has $0 monthly payments for some years but is still accruing interest.

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[–] numberfour002@lemmy.world 60 points 10 months ago

The whole ordeal is/was a colossal screw up.

The student loan company I had to deal with lied to me and made no apologies about it. When I submitted an official complaint through the Federal Student Aid site, it wasn't handled by some government agent or a 3rd party supervisor, it was handled by a customer service rep working for the student loan company. It was literally "we investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong" kind of thing.

Having said that, you may still want to file a complaint if you have had issues with the USA's loan servicing - https://studentaid.gov/feedback-center/. It's probably delusional, but I feel like at least having an official record of the report could be helpful down the line at some point. Maybe one day the Federal government will seriously investigate, or maybe one day there will be a lawsuit and at least an official complaint could serve as evidence you were impacted.

[–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 45 points 10 months ago (5 children)

We don’t have to pay for the first year, interest accrues, but you don’t become delinquent. Either I completely misread the agreement I signed, and so did many others including journalists.

More likely, this particular article is garbage.

[–] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well that's even harsher. They'll let you build up some principal before garnishment.

[–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

The interest doesn’t capitalize at least.

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[–] mspencer712@programming.dev 45 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Wait don’t do that. They garnish wages for student debt. They’re happy to do it, too, as they get to keep a big chunk of extra fees that way.

[–] joekar1990@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago

While agree that not paying you are just sinking youself deeper especially since you can’t declare bankruptcy and get rid of the debt. The Biden administration put an on-ramp period in place so that it would reduce any penalties for not paying. Repayments start

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

Time to start working under the table.

This is what happens when the social contract unravels.

[–] crsu@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just wait until they bring back debtors prisons to fix the labor shortage

[–] thatgirlwasfire@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

How would removing people from the labor force fix the shortage? Did debtors prisons have you work for companies or something?

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

The 13th amendment outlaws the practice of slavery, except for prisoners. A possible (legally questionable and morally objectionable) solution is to throw those who can’t pay in prison, then force them into labor as prisoners, and use that labor to pay their debts, after they pay room/board of course, thus ensuring they never escape their bonds

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 6 points 10 months ago

The answer to your questions is slavery with extra steps.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

That takes a lot of work and a court order. You can avoid that by making a token payment say of five dollars once a month.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago (5 children)

This could be good. If students default en mass congress might be forced to enact debt forgiveness

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 22 points 10 months ago

You got some wishful thinking there buddy.

[–] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 14 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Unfortunately student loans are one of the few types of loans you cannot default on or get relief through bankruptcy. From what I understand, anyway.

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[–] Hyperlon@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

No, they'll just garnish your wages

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[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Millions of borrowers have probably gotten themselves into situations where they can't make their payments.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 33 points 10 months ago

Honestly, why the fuck should they? Mohela is a perfect example of how impressively bad the restart of payments went. Absolutely bottled it. People paid, didn't register, they reported late payments then magically everything was ok... until the next payment.

The entire restart was an absolute shit show. Fuck em.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago

Hold the line until every single executive at Bear, Goldman, and AIG pays back their bonuses.

[–] catbaba@lemmus.org 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 18 points 10 months ago

This article is way back in 2020. Two douchebags went to the Supreme Court to stop the White House from forgiving debt.

[–] alienanimals@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fuck the greedy bankers taking advantage of students trying to gain an education. They deserve to get fucked and every American citizen deserves an education.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fuck the universities too. Why do they cost so much in the U.S.A.?

[–] hark@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Is it an intentional strike or simply not being able to pay?

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Strikes are traditionally caused by situations that the striking persons have determined are untenable in one way or another.

[–] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I can make the payments, I choose not to. I’d be content with 0% interest options, but for now my payment is set so that i’ll either be broke monthly in order to beat the interest levels or more interest is added on, even though I made the regular payment.

College can be free, it shouldn’t be a burden to anyone.

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[–] GutsBerserk@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Fucking usurer scum. The real cancer of our planet. How is this bs fair?

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[–] baascus@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

Politics aside, as someone who defaulted on student loans years ago, don’t do that. It is a decision that will follow you for a ridiculously long time with little recourse.

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