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[–] CM400@lemmy.world 303 points 8 months ago (23 children)

Pizza Hut made over $6 billion last year, you’d think they could afford to pay their drivers.

[–] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 218 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Of course the can pay their drivers but think of the poor shareholders who may see 0.1% less profit or the CEO who may get only 99% of their usual bonus. Oh the horror!!

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 67 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

The Pizza Hut corporation will be fine. These are franchises we are talking about. The franchises pay an initial fee of $25k and then 6% + 4.75% sales/marketing fees to Pizza Hut.

It's the owners of the franchises that are responsible for fucking over their employees. While Pizza Hut could reduce their fees, they won't. Franchise owners could increase pay, but they won't. It's more likely that the franchise owners will offload deliveries to Uber and Door Dash and not have to worry about managing drivers anymore.

The entire model sucks, so I am not blaming franchise owners over the corporation. They are both at fault for relying on the extortion of teenagers or other people who don't have extremely profitable job skills.

https://franchise.pizzahut.com/faqs/

Edit: Also, these aren't one-off mom and pop franchise owners anymore. These are franchise owning conglomerates that likely have more negotiable franchise fees.

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago

Technically it’s mega franchisees like Provender Capital Group’s “PacSun Pizza,” not PizzaHut that is going to be pocketing the cash from this move.

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[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 204 points 8 months ago (17 children)

They could have just focused on providing a better delivery experience, instead they're going to let uber drivers deliver cold pizza with the wrong soda.

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 152 points 8 months ago (2 children)

With higher delivery fees! Why on earth would anyone even order Pizza Hut after this? If I'm paying obscene delivery fees and jacked up menu prices through doordash or whoever anyway, I'm getting better food than that. Or just eating at home like I end up doing every time I look at the total from one of those services.

[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 32 points 8 months ago

I've only ordered from the big ones to avoid fucky delivery services. It just eliminates the point of it.

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[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 193 points 8 months ago (3 children)

If your business plan can't make a profit while paying your people a living wage, than it doesn't deserve to be in business.

Expecting people to live paycheque to paycheque in order to subsidize your desire to be a business owner is the Pinnacle of bullshit.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago (25 children)

Pizza Hut is a joke in the bay area and Sacramento area. There are just too many good pizza places. I think it's messed up, but I also think they aren't doing well for more than just the delivery process.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 98 points 8 months ago (7 children)

The new law, a modified version of the FAST Act proposing a minimum wage increase for fast-food workers to $22 an hour this year, has faced resistance from major chains such as McDonald’s, Chipotle and Chick-fil-A. These chains said they plan to raise menu prices to offset higher operating costs.

Can't trim executive pay or profits. Must cut out services. All hail the mighty dollar.

Same reason my bank branch has tons of empty stations and only two tellers and a long line. Same reason they're closing the drive-through lanes where my mom banks in the midwest. Convenience for customers is now the enemy getting in the way of higher profits.

I recently introduced my partner to The Sopranos. It opens with Tony Soprano commenting that he feels like he got into the scene (the mob) at the end of its heyday. I feel that way about capitalism.

[–] books@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Anecdotal for sure, but I can't remember the last time I actually had to step foot in a bank. I'd argue that banks CAN cut staff as I can't be alone in not really needing to go into a physical shop to bank anymore. All my banking requires an appointment.

However, fast food, in particular pizza places, need delivery drivers. Especially pizza hut. I can't for the life of me think that people are going to go in and sit at a pizza hut anymore.. what is it, 1988?

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[–] GutsBerserk@lemmy.world 97 points 8 months ago (8 children)

F*ck the people who empower gig economy. Fuck Uber eats, door dash and everything similar.

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 38 points 8 months ago (3 children)

They only exist because people use them.

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago (5 children)

People generally should use the best option. Often expense is the metric. These are able to operate at competitive rates because they get away with shenanigans. They should be regulated properly, then their rates would reflect that and people would use them less.

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[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 16 points 8 months ago (6 children)

I look forward to the downvotes again because everyone has their heads so far up their asses but we are the problem. Fuck us.

We are the reason we are racing to the bottom. We expect cheap & fast and we don't care how it happens as long as it does.

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[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 8 months ago (2 children)
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[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

For every else (like me) who had never heard the term 'gig economy' before:

A gig economy is a free market system in which temporary positions are common and organizations hire independent workers for short-term commitments. The term "gig" is a slang word for a job that lasts a specified period of time. Traditionally, the term was used by musicians to define a performance engagement.

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[–] darkmarx@lemmy.world 79 points 8 months ago (6 children)

It would take a lot to convince me that they haven't been discussing this for years and have been waiting for the right time. The market is now loaded with others to do the delivery, which was probably one of the considerations. I'm sure another was how to announce it where they can blame someone else; at least to the point of ensuring some will defend them.

The minimum wage increase is their excuse. What they are doing is outsourcing their delivery to a 3rd party (GrubHub, Uber eats, etc). They wont have to pay them anything, the customer will. They are decreasing their head count, payroll, insurance, taxes, benefits, etc. They will lose some sales, but that wont even be close to their cost savings. They will easily make more money while selling their product at the same price. Any business would love to be in the same position.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Weird part is that San Diego increased their minimum wage to $15 an hour in 2016, $18 an hour in 2018, and $20 an hour in 2020. Papa Johns and Domino's still have delivery drivers. I can't actually speak to Pizza Hut, since I never order from them.

Methinks this is just more corporate greed that will be masked as "inflation," even though their costs just went down.

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[–] Nukken@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago

It's such a short sited goal though. Those delivery apps are going to start dictating terms and extracting money from restaurants eventually.

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[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 74 points 8 months ago (14 children)

Pizza hut is trash anyways, unless you live in the middle of nowhere, you've probably got a better local pizza place. Please support them instead of a chain.

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[–] sndmn@lemmy.ca 57 points 8 months ago (13 children)

FYI: They're part of Yum! Brands : KFC Pizza Hut Taco Bell Banh Shop (minority investor) The Habit Burger Grill

I will continue to boycott their "foods".

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 57 points 8 months ago (21 children)

I'm not in California, but if Pizza Hut thinks I'm ever going to go out of my way to get one of their shitty pizzas, they're very wrong. There are plenty of other places that deliver.

[–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 34 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I go out of my way to avoid them already. They changed their sauce or something like 10 years ago and it tasted awful.

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 53 points 8 months ago (11 children)

Is no one else going to blame an overly specific minimum wage? I couldn’t find anything too specific but in California, it looks like:

  • fast food minimum wage: $20/hr, going to $22
  • gig drivers: $15/hr

Of course they’re going to outsource drivers, This looks like a nice Christmas gift to UberEats/DoirDash

[–] eltrain123@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Customer still pays the raised wage price, but a new company gets injected as a middle man. That’s the true American dream. Same income for the business, but another layer of corporations cleans up instead of the people actually making the work happen.

They should create incentive by taxing the shit out of businesses and offering tax breaks for actually offering living wages and benefits to their employees. If the “correct” answer in capitalism is to find the cheapest solution, make it expensive to make choices that are a detriment to the community the business operates in.

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[–] books@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I can't for the life of me think that this will be good for them though. Food delivery services are notoriously shitty/slow. If I order a pizza and have to wait for an intendent person to come pick it up and deliver it when ever is convenient for them? Thats not gonna work for me... and I would be loud and boisterous to the company.

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[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 48 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Didn't Pizza Hut use to be a high quality sit-down restaurant that didn't even do delivery and had a big salad bar? At least, that's how I remembered it, because I don't think I've thought about Pizza Hut in years.

Also, it is worth noting that these are companies that franchises Pizza Hut, not Pizza Hut owner Yum Brands. This is more of a case of companies being horrible in general instead of a large company being horrible.

The 20 dollar minimum wage is however well deserved, and probably should be higher considering the cost of living here in California.

[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

I'm from NJ and a few months back I went to our local Pizza Hut with my mom since it had been years since we'd been there. Its on the corner of two major roads (one is literally called Main Road) and in a shopping center.

We pulled up and there was one car there and the entire place looked dark, we weren't sure that they were even open, even though it was like 4:30 PM. We walked in and it was a ghost town, an employee finally appeared and we asked if they were open and she said they were. For like the 30-45 minutes that we were there we were the only people there, even for pick-up.

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[–] vermyndax@lemmy.world 42 points 8 months ago (5 children)

A few months ago I was suddenly craving a pan pizza... out of nowhere. In the 80's, Pizza Hut pan pizza was the shit. I was pining for the nostalgia, I suppose.

The pizza was got was awful. Truly horrible. Pizza Hut is dead to me.

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[–] LifeOfChance@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago

Damn for a company that's been shutting down locations I'd think it be cheaper to pay their employees better than lose all those customers. My state alone has seen them shut down nearly every location.

[–] PizzaMan@lemmy.world 35 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

https://investors.yum.com/news-events/financial-releases/news-details/2023/Yum-Brands-Reports-Fourth-Quarter-Results-and-Increases-Dividend/default.aspx

We repurchased 10 million shares totaling $1.2 billion at an average price per share of $119.

They are just greedy. They have the money, but giving the money to the rich is evidently more important.

https://cwa-union.org/stock-buybacks-hurt-workers

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[–] vodkasolution@feddit.it 35 points 8 months ago (1 children)

that will surely help their business

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[–] ersatz@infosec.pub 30 points 8 months ago

Customers at the affected Pizza Hut locations must use third-party apps like GrubHub, DoorDash and Uber Eats for deliveries.

Eww, no. Fuck that. Not that I would order Pizza Hut anyways, but I'll never touch any of those services.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 29 points 8 months ago (5 children)

absolutely the worst pizza chain that exists. i do not understand how people can stomach all that grease

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 28 points 8 months ago (17 children)

Somewhere you just made Papa John smile.

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[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 27 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Not to be too cynical, but like is Uber going to be delivering Pizza Hut? Are there 'gig economy' laws in place in California? How's that going to work? Are workers going to be forced into an even less regulated labour market?

[–] Dkiscoo@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago (6 children)

If you order from pizza Hut here it's delivered by door dash. It sucks, takes forever, is usually cold when it arrives, and the pizza's not even good. Not sure if it's just this franchise or regional. Stopped getting pizza Hut altogether.

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[–] nLuLukna@sh.itjust.works 26 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This doesn't change the policy and the benefits it will bring in the long run.

It's crap for the delivery drivers though. But longer term isn't forever and at somepoint that wage increase will directly benefit them as well.

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[–] scripthook@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago (7 children)

makes sense. I've noticed since covid a lot of places use Doordash drivers instead of delivery drivers now. It's cheaper and the extra cost goes to the customer

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[–] generalpotato@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago (10 children)

Who the fuck eats at Pizza Hut these days? Good riddance tbh.

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[–] rivermonster@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

Good, their pizza is shit anyway.

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