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[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 63 points 10 months ago (36 children)

I don't wish to disparage people's spiritual beliefs, but I'm sorry nobody should have to go around wearing anything like this, no matter what faith you come from. You should have the freedom to EXIST as yourself and show who you are. This niqab stuff is abuse.

[–] kemsat@lemmy.world 60 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I do wish to disparage people’s spiritual beliefs, so I’ll just say that religion is the greatest evil ever created by humankind.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 33 points 10 months ago

Was just about to say. Fuck organized religion, fuck tolerating bigotry and intolerance in the name of acceptance and pluralism. Religion is something to be overcome not assimilated.

[–] TheMadnessKing@lemdro.id 5 points 10 months ago

IMO religion shouldn't exist in 21st Century.

We have machines going beyond solar system, scientific evidence that earth revolves around Sun , ability to interact with people on the other side of globe instantly and more.......

None of these things have religion ever predicted. And sometimes even being grossly wrong.

[–] Zaderade@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

So you're telling me that killing hundreds of thousands of people maybe even millions over the years in the name of some character which no one has any physical evidence exists and the people that follow along subconsciously know it's fake however they are too afraid of not having some fictional guiding light is bad????? You're wrong, Jesus saves!!!¡¡!¡!!! /s

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

As someone with Muslim family, they will tell you that it is the women's choice. That they prefer to cover themselves from head to toe, even in blistering heat. The actual choice is to bite their tongue and wear it, or choose to deal with shame, humiliation, mockery, and often times much worse.

The rest of history has shown that women don't choose that kind of clothing when they have free will.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Precisely. Nobody should be forced to wear clothing in any faith that they don't want to.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

That they prefer to cover themselves from head to toe, even in blistering heat.

Please don’t be ignorant

“The authors also concluded that the typical Bedouin costume has the same effects whether it is black or white. The black color does absorb more heat, but it does not reach the skin, so the color of the fabric is not important. The thickness of the fabric of these garments also favors better absorption of temperature, preventing it from reaching the skin.”

The Bedouin lesson: A scientific study proves robes are the best garment to wear in the desert heat

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

While true that covering clothing can protect from the sun, it doesn't do anything indoors. Yet women still wear them indoors. Also, if that's the reason they are worn, why don't men cover themselves similarly?

Don't be ignorant of the fact that women are raped or killed for not wearing them in some places. Look up Mahsa Amini if you don't believe me.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Don’t be ignorant of the fact that women are raped or killed for not wearing them in some places.

Name the places. No one is getting raped or killed for not wearing them here in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.

Look up Mahsa Amini if you don’t believe me.

I read the laws in Iran, and the fine for not wearing hijab ranges between 5000 - 500,000 Iranian riyal, or 0.10 - 10.14 USD, and 10 days - 2 months imprisonment. Everything I can gather outside of western sources is that it was an accident. And accidents with the police happen in the west too, the US is specially notorious for it.

Again, not all Muslim countries are Iran.

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[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What matters is that they can't get education and economic independence, who gives a shit about dress codes

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

To me forcing the girls to cover their faces is another shit thing done to them.

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[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

People's spiritual belief should be limited to themselves, the moment you enforce your religious rules on anyone else it's no longer OK and should be disparaged. Everyone should have the freedom to dress as a beekeeper, no one should have the obligation to do so.

[–] Zippy@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We need to pat ourselves on our back that we got out of there.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Were you raised Muslim? I'm an ex Catholic lol.

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[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 7 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


In September 2021, a month after U.S. and NATO troops withdrew from Afghanistan following two decades of war, the Taliban announced that girls were barred from studying beyond sixth grade.

The Taliban have defied global condemnation and warnings that the restrictions will make it almost impossible for them to gain recognition as the country’s legitimate rulers.

Last week, U.N. special envoy Roza Otunbayeva expressed concern that a generation of Afghan girls is falling behind with each day that passes.

Last week, an official in the Education Ministry said Afghan girls of all ages are allowed to study in religious schools known as madrassas, which have traditionally been boys-only.

In another part of Kabul, 13-year old Setayesh Sahibzada wonders what the future holds for her.

Analyst Muhammad Saleem Paigir warned that excluding women and girls from education will be disastrous for Afghanistan.


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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 10 months ago

I love and promote life-long education for all peoples. This sucks. I can't imagine how much it sucks to be told you "can't."

[–] thecookingsenpai@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

Sometimes I really need to have these news thrown on my face, is incredible that we tend to forget these situations most of the time

[–] S_204@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago

This is what you are asking for in Gaza if you support the Palestinians. They want this bullshit world wide, they don't even hide it either.

Feel bad for these people who suffer under religious rule. It holds back so many world changing minds. I know women who escaped Iran, who's now funding Islamic jihadism in the region, and gone on to literally world changing Alzheimer's research that's making people's lives better. Had she stayed in one of these backwards shit hole misogynistic countries, we would never benefit from her mind. That's only part of the problem with this garbage.

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