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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 75 points 1 year ago (5 children)

why would he say the quiet part out loud? how would this not make him seem like a piece of shit?

i tried to read in the article where he might say something about why but it really is just 'profits at all costs'.. wants to avoid the use of words like 'ethical'.. gotcha. i understand what kind of person you are now.

[–] dpkonofa@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I think this is misrepresenting what he said. His stance is basically that he felt like they were punishing honest workers and business partners, people who never lied or cheated or hurt anyone, for something that they had no part in due to public pressure. He’s not wrong either unless people have some kind of explanation for how a cosmetics manufacturer is supposed to stop Putin from murdering innocent Ukrainians fighting against his pointless war and innocent Russians who don’t want to fight for him.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Because it might apply pressure to those rich enough to influence Putin. Because it slows their economy. Because it sends a message.

It's one raindrop in the flood. But without raindrops, there is no flood.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 26 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Yeah but that's what sanctions are. It's not really possible to have convenient sanctions. How would that work.

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[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 12 points 1 year ago (11 children)

A cosmetics manufacturer alone? No.

All western companies leaving however can make an economic hit that will benefit Ukraine.

As for the Russians? They can revolt or do something, otherwise they suffer. Who cares about them.

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good points, thank you.

[–] SMillerNL@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If stopping Putin from being in government is the only fix, the only possible action anyone could take would be ending Putin. Anything else would be useless.

It isn’t though, non-offensive actions have effects too.

[–] dpkonofa@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That assumes that Russia has fair elections where voting would make a difference…

What non-offensive action could Lush’s production partner take that would make any difference?

[–] Breezy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They could just pff putin, no one would be offended.

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[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I'll take an honest cunt over a deceitful cunt any day of the week.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think the article paints a pretty good portrait of a complicated but socially responsible business owner, even though I do think pulling out of Russia was the right thing to do even if it wasn't what he would've chosen.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

That's the name of the game with carotidien. Profits at all costs.

[–] hh93@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

And some people still say that the customers are helpless and calling for boycott doesn't work...

If people would demand other industries to be more in line with their moral values (like about climate change) that could also change a lot

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's good to know. Since Lush doesn't seem to sell their stuff in other retail locations, it will be much easier to never buy Lush products again.

[–] BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Atleast he isn't lying. Every other company is waiting for the right time to go back why shouldn't he? I am under no illusion that all businesses that left Russia did it because of the goodness of their hearts.

Are you going to boycott all the other business that left too?

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] lickmygiggle@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That picture looks like a cross between Leo Laporte and Robert DeNiro

"Hey, Call for Help is on!"

[–] intelshill@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dude's a greedy pig, what do you expect?

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you actually read the article it doesn't seem to be about the money:

Mr Constantine said: “It was horrible. I hated it because we have a very diverse workforce and lots of people who probably wouldn’t be welcome in Russia.

“We had a partner of 20 years in Russia who never cheated, never lied, and we had to tell him we weren’t going to supply him anymore.

(The Telegraph doesn't close some of their “quotes” for some reason)

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As far as I remember, that's the correct use of continued quotation in English

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

huh, i didn't know that was a thing

[–] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Indeed. I'm reading the OG Frankenstein book and found this out when quotes were only at the start of a paragraph and never closed, for pages at a time.

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lmao for a minute i thought the public was deeply invested in the remote control vibrator Lush by Lovense

We are! This isn't it though. Don't put this up there. It'll ruin the pH.

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