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Shirts That Go Hard

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[–] SonicBlue03@sh.itjust.works 100 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I can't speak for all of Caucasia but I'm not offended.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 62 points 10 months ago

I will speak to my fellow caucasians and say, "if you're offended, lighten the fuck up, honky."

[–] remotedev@lemmy.ca 27 points 10 months ago

I think the way it works is someone who is not a member of that group tells you it's offensive

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

He got it wrong though. The shirt should says "CRACKERS".

[–] DaCrazyJamez@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Also not offended by this.

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Me either, but it's actually meant to be offensive whereas Caucasians is just a classification.

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[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Cracker isn’t an epithet that native Americans have ever used though.

Paleface would be the matching slur to redskin.

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[–] angrymouse@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The problem with the football teams is that usually the name of team is the name of a group of ppl that was almost exterminated and their descendants still pay the price and nobody cares while their name is used as something cool. Just using the name should not be that offensive.

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (81 children)

Except redskins is offensive. It's not the name of a group of people, it's an epithet describing them.

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[–] mulcahey@lemmy.world 73 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Should go harder IMHO. This ad from the National Congress of American Indians does a good job.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Yeah the only issue here is "Caucasians" is roughly similar in emotional weight to "native Americans."

Shirt should say like, "crackers" or something

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Cracker doesn't even have enough contextual weight. Whitey is about as heavy as I can think of and even that doesn't carry much weight for the people it should.

Source: I'm literally whiter than Casper the friendly ghost, and I actually care. The Americans I'm talking about just don't care.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Even that word has no pull nowadays. I don't know any white people that are even bothered by it in the least. I am one half Caucasian and I know for sure that it has no affect at all on me. I think it's a kind of funny word, actually. We need something with more spice to it for sure. Mayo monkies? Snow roaches? Marshmallow minions?

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I very much like Mayo Monkies myself lol

[–] Hamartia@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Eh.. folks from County Mayo might feel unfairly singled out.

I would have thought that if redskins is the settler pejorative for native americans then Paleface (or the like) is the thematic riposte.

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[–] match@pawb.social 3 points 10 months ago

"Whipcrackers," even

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[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The issue is a lot of people would completely fail to get the message and want to buy all three hats.

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 48 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm all for it. I want the mascot to be just a normal guy named "Steve." It's just some white guy in a cardigan. His catch phrase is "Hi, I'm Steve, nice to meet you."

When the players score a touchdown, the fans all chant "Hi, I'm Steve." The customary celebration is for the player to mime a normal handshake.

[–] Thranduil@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Nah it gotta be dave. Everyone knows Dave

[–] aulin@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Steve is the funnier name though.

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[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My favorite team is still the Cincinnati Cracker-Asses

[–] Dusktracer@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I am okay with the rebranded Honky-tonks too.

[–] Apprehensive@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago

Whiteskins seems like a more appropriate name

[–] ApollosArrow@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Shouldn’t the shirt say “Red Necks” or anything more offensive?

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I read that a more apt metaphore would be a shirt that says Paleface, with a skinny white dude on it. Cause this shirt actually goes hard.

[–] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I see 'paleface' more as a response to something morbidly shocking versus ID'ing a group of people. Similar, if the original were 'redface,' it would be being uncontrollably angry.

Wouldn't swapping in white to have whiteskins, fit better?

[–] isthingoneventhis@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"red necks" is usually referring to a specific lot of folk, whereas the original context (of what this is poking at) "referred" of an entire group of people, so saying "caucasians" is more 1:1.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Wasn't the team name basically a slur? Wouldn't something like "crackers" be a better fit?

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[–] jaxxed@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Stunning@lemmy.zip 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is it racist for me a white guy to wear this?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'd be worried people wouldn't get the joke and think I was some sort of Nazi.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

Yeah, that was my thought too.

There are dumb right wingers who would wear it "see theres nothing offensive about this" as opposed to "See how fucking weird this is"

[–] BrazenSigilos@ttrpg.network 12 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Only sport that team would play is disk golf

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[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago

I would wear that shirt

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Can we do this? I want this team. It's gotta be full of burly black guys though. They're clearly better at football. I would start watching football.

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[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Caucasians doesn't roll off the tongue at all. Need something shorter.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

That guy (and likely his entire extended family) gets it.

[–] sarmale@lemmy.zip 6 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Why is caucasian used to refer to the white race, isnt that for georgians or something?

[–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 8 points 10 months ago

Misrepresenting the target group is just an added bonus. It's like referring to all indigenous people as "indians" - even if they were from India (which they're not), it's just taking a blanket term and making them all seem like they're the same. At least that's why it's even funnier in this context.

But generally speaking, when people unironically use the term to refer to all whites, well, that just shows that they don't really understand the meaning of the term they are using.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I wanted to support the team, but they're so damn unathletic.

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[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Hell yeah brother got one in a large long?

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