this post was submitted on 23 Dec 2023
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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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INFO

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Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

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Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] flames5123@lemmy.world 51 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

There have been actual court cases solidifying that you can use the middle finger to a police officer. This is a slam dunk for the ~~woman~~ man.

[–] Potato_in_my_anus@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

What woman?... it's a guy the flipper

[–] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I was thinking maybe a new trend of deliberately misgendering everyone (or randomly) was becoming a thing.

[–] negativeyoda@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago

Come to Portland. You'll never get someone's gender right

[–] flames5123@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Maybe I shouldn’t drink and do Lemmy. lol

[–] art@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Retrograde@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Fuck that trooper

The man said, his finger making the maneuver

"I'm a fragile loser"

The trooper said, grasping his belt in a stupor.

"Fuck off, I said!" The man bellowed

The trooper approached, his attitude not mellowed

"You're being obtuse and you're under arrest"

The shallow policeman said, clearly unimpressed

"What can we do to stop this?"

The Internet forums queried

"It's never going to change"

The other users answered, wearied