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[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 55 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (23 children)

People think that Jews in Israel are a monolith, but they actually come from different places and so have vastly different points of view.

For example, European Jews tend to favor a two-state solution whereas Arab and Russian Jews tend to disagree.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

Also people who think all all Jews are Israelis. My wife is Canadian Jewish, and she's not very religious or political. I'm Latino and I know more about Israel than she does, but people sometimes try to put Israel's baggage on her or her family because of their ancestry. She considers herself Canadian, and her Jewish heritage is a cultural one, not a location.

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[–] Mango@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I actually did not know this. Please don't eat me alive.

[–] FlickOfTheBean@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

As long as you're not being a douchebag, or, if you were, you immediately stop being a douchebag, I don't think anyone has basis to eat you alive.

[–] wafflez@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago

Who are we going to eat instead? Can I come to your place?

[–] vrek@programming.dev 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Ok this is a legit question, not trying to troll or bait... Are there African or east Asian jews? Like Jewish communities in Ghana or Thailand for example?

[–] ArtikBanana@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yup.
Ethiopian Jews, Indian Jews, and tiny communties of Chinese and Japanese Jews.

Edit: There are more, but those are mostly Jews that ran away / were expelled from other countries.
Like Jews in Thailand who fled Russia and Iran.

[–] vrek@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Interesting, I only hear of American, European or Middle East jews.

[–] ArtikBanana@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 months ago

Indian Jews are also the only ones amongst Jewish communities who haven't faced any discrimination. Despite their presence in India for around 2,000 years.

[–] datendefekt@lemmy.ml 11 points 10 months ago

First thing coming to mind are the Jews in Ethiopia.

[–] arcticbreakout@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ethnically or religiously?

[–] original2@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Both. For example Ethiopian Jews

[–] ArtikBanana@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It hasn't been disproved that Ethiopian Jews are ethnically Jewish.
A genetic study showed a possible genetic link.

[–] original2@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah I'm saying that jews are not necessarily ethically and/or religiously white

They can be black, and Ethiopian jews (amongst others) overwhelmingly are

[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Finally, someone else who gets it. It's so weird that so many people think all Jews came from a single tribe at the edge of the desert. That's not how religions work...

[–] set_secret@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

even weirder that most people seem to identify Judaism as an ethnicity and not as a religion.

[–] splicerslicer@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Because it's both? Jews can be both semites (ethnicity) and followers of Judaism (religion). Not all Jewish people are both. To make things more confusing, not all Jews are zionists, and not all Israelis are zionists.

[–] oshu@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

It depends on how you define the word ethnicity. Look it up and it can mean any group that shares a common religion, custom, language, etc.

Debating if something is a religion or an ethnicity is like debating if it is a Group or a Club or a population.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I used to know a black guy that was German by heritage

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's a country, not an ethnicity or religion.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The point still stands. All those categories are social constructs and we morally shouldn't make them dictate our behaviors towards others and we should treat all human beings with respect and dignity regardless of how they look or which group they belong to.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

His family came from Germany several generations back.

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, thats.. not that weird really.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes but most (racist) people just assume he's from Africa.

[–] kattenluik@feddit.nl 1 points 10 months ago

In the US or what? Never seen that before.

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Stupid English doesn't differentiate between citizenship and ethnicity

[–] i3c8XHV@aussie.zone 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How is citizenship related to this post?

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago

Oh, I see what they mean, but that's probably racist

[–] ytg@feddit.ch 2 points 10 months ago

...while some other people get it wrong in exactly the opposite way (you know, the Khazar nonsense)

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