this post was submitted on 19 Dec 2023
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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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INFO

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Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] CaptainProton@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Not news, just hard to stomach for people whose assumptions trust the state by default.

[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will never not kick over police robots.

[–] Followupquestion@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

ABK (Always Be Kicking)?

[–] Kanda@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago

Hey look, Psycho Pass is the dystopiam story that foretold the future. Suck it, 1984 and Brave New World

[–] LukefromDC@kolektiva.social 4 points 1 year ago

@DougHolland That thing looks like it was made to be used for target practice. They should put scoring rings on it so it would be more useful

[–] Oldfartrant@mstdn.ca 3 points 1 year ago

@DougHolland
Police now using Daleks

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My city council recently voted to start utilizing those "gunshot detector" microphones, despite being presented with evidence of how they are frequently inaccurate, with false alarms, and can tend to exacerbate racial tensions. The false alarms, meanwhile, pull police away from actual emergencies.

But here we are. Apparently we're going to spend millions of dollars on this.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I remember seeing the stats on this in DC. They always claimed they could precisely identify the sound signature of a gunshot… even filtering out similar noises like fireworks. Well, according to their own statistics, the system identifies the most gunshots on the 4th of July out of any other day of the year. I mean, I could see an argument for it. But, I also thought that this fact doesn’t give high confidence that it can tell the difference.

[–] RainfallSonata@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I mean, the one night of the year when the most guns are fired is the 4th of July. I try to leave the city for the whole weekend. It's not safe to stand out on the porch to watch what fireworks there are. It's fucking ridiculous, and terrifying. One year when I couldn't get away, I kept family in another state on a video call. They couldn't believe what they were hearing. It's pretty obvious when they're both going off at once, what's fireworks and what's guns.