this post was submitted on 23 Jul 2023
64 points (97.1% liked)

No Stupid Questions

35882 readers
1800 users here now

No such thing. Ask away!

!nostupidquestions is a community dedicated to being helpful and answering each others' questions on various topics.

The rules for posting and commenting, besides the rules defined here for lemmy.world, are as follows:

Rules (interactive)


Rule 1- All posts must be legitimate questions. All post titles must include a question.

All posts must be legitimate questions, and all post titles must include a question. Questions that are joke or trolling questions, memes, song lyrics as title, etc. are not allowed here. See Rule 6 for all exceptions.



Rule 2- Your question subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material.

Your question subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material. You will be warned first, banned second.



Rule 3- Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here.

Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here. Breaking this rule will not get you or your post removed, but it will put you at risk, and possibly in danger.



Rule 4- No self promotion or upvote-farming of any kind.

That's it.



Rule 5- No baiting or sealioning or promoting an agenda.

Questions which, instead of being of an innocuous nature, are specifically intended (based on reports and in the opinion of our crack moderation team) to bait users into ideological wars on charged political topics will be removed and the authors warned - or banned - depending on severity.



Rule 6- Regarding META posts and joke questions.

Provided it is about the community itself, you may post non-question posts using the [META] tag on your post title.

On fridays, you are allowed to post meme and troll questions, on the condition that it's in text format only, and conforms with our other rules. These posts MUST include the [NSQ Friday] tag in their title.

If you post a serious question on friday and are looking only for legitimate answers, then please include the [Serious] tag on your post. Irrelevant replies will then be removed by moderators.



Rule 7- You can't intentionally annoy, mock, or harass other members.

If you intentionally annoy, mock, harass, or discriminate against any individual member, you will be removed.

Likewise, if you are a member, sympathiser or a resemblant of a movement that is known to largely hate, mock, discriminate against, and/or want to take lives of a group of people, and you were provably vocal about your hate, then you will be banned on sight.



Rule 8- All comments should try to stay relevant to their parent content.



Rule 9- Reposts from other platforms are not allowed.

Let everyone have their own content.



Rule 10- Majority of bots aren't allowed to participate here.



Credits

Our breathtaking icon was bestowed upon us by @Cevilia!

The greatest banner of all time: by @TheOneWithTheHair!

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

... is it possible to do any kind of business and/or have regular conversations without having to use whatsapp as a main way of communication?

If you'd like you can say in what country you're living.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] expr@programming.dev 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm in the US. Never used Whatsapp in my life, and don't know anyone that does. I just text people. It would be weird if someone tried to get me to use WhatsApp and tbh I'd probably just say no.

At work we use Slack and Google Meet.

[–] palebluethought@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

+1, in the US Whatsapp is the thing you download when you're traveling abroad, and has no other presence at all

[–] dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Norway. For whatever reason, Whatsapp hasn't really taken off as far as I know. Instead people are all over the place with messaging services. Snapchat, Facebook Messenger, Instagram DM, Signal, Telegram and SMS. I'm sure there's more.

[–] Dove9848@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

USA here. No we don't use WhatsApp at all. I communicate with all friends and family on Telegram or SMS. For work we use Slack. I refuse to have any Facebook anything installed on my phone (I don't use social media anyway....except for Lemmy now I guess if that counts haha)

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

I'm a proponent of breaking social media into two categories. There should be "personal media" or something where you use your real name and information, and some other name for social media that you use an alias. The fact Reddit/Lemmy are in the same category as Facebook seems dumb. We need a better way to describe it. Depending on how you define it, news sites with comment sections could be called social media if you wanted to, but it's clearly something different than Facebook.

[–] Panda@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I'm from Europe, and for years I'd been using WhatsApp because everyone expected me to even though I didn't feel comfortable using it at all (because I care about my privacy and apparently not all of my friends/family members do). At some point I was forced to accept new terms that basically said it was okay for them to sell my data and that's where I drew the line and told everyone that I would no longer be using WhatsApp and that if they wanted to reach me they could call me, text me or message me on Telegram. I immediately uninstalled it.

I noticed friends and family found it a bit odd and inconvenient that I'd stopped using WhatsApp. And many companies seem to use WhatsApp to contact their customers (why can't they just email me instead...) and it seems they automatically assume everyone uses it, which I find a bit annoying. But ever since uninstalling it no one has been able to convince me to reinstall it and I plan to keep it that way.

[–] TokyoCalling@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Japan. I've never used whatsapp. It is neither popular here nor important for business communication.

[–] 0ne0ff@lemmy.eco.br 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

South America, Brazil. Everything has been taken by meta. From private to business. If you don't use it, you get that look as if you were some strange unfit person. Try to challenge somebody asking why there is no alternative, you'll get that look again. Doctors, lawyers, real estate, rentals, pharmacy, schools, online classes, local business, everyday communications, online purchases, receipts, invoices, returning items you bought, financial advices, government related stuff (gov won't do a damn thing to include another official channel of communicating, it suites them very well, "Please use whatsapp for your convince, we want you to be satisfied", not the other way around. You ain't survive without this crap. Don't resist or else.

[–] 0ddysseus@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is fucking horrifying. How did it ever get to that point?

[–] 0ne0ff@lemmy.eco.br 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cellular carriers were charging disproportionately for sms and calls, so people where looking for cheap alternatives and unfortunately meta/facebook zucced the entire nation by being in the right place at the right time (with enormous help of word-of-mouth marketing that sealed the deal and some additional help coming from meta I suppose). Government never cared nor questioned why everything was provided for free, zero cost, no questions asked and regular folks didn't have time or even bother to do some research. And on the top of it, local carriers to make things even better, introduced the zero-rate for zucced app which basically elevated this crapp to some divine status. And now we have wechat called ZAP, as a solution for every kind of communication. Nowadays even if you proved that this crapp is doing some harm to you in alot of ways, nobody would care. It's as normal as flipping on a light switch, simply nobody think about it anymore, it's there and that's about it.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] notExactlyI20@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Salvadorian here. Ppl here definetly use whatsapp as a pretty much jack of all trades, including work stuff. Weirdly enough people don't care about privacy, despite the fact that any other messenger app is far way superior that whatsapp, people just don't use it or put any excuse to not even try.

Hell, if you tell em "I don't have an account/wa installed" like myself, they pretty try to exclude you or advice you to install it and to stop being a pain in the ass to deal with, it's just plain ridiculous

[–] megsmagik@feddit.it 8 points 1 year ago

In Italy everyone and their mom use Whatsapp, even if I need to communicate with a business like for ordering a medicine at a pharmacy, I can call them on their land line (absolutely no thanks) or I can send them a Whatsapp. I have telegram just for public group chats and matrix for the fediverse group chats, no one irl use signal or matrix, a few have telegram but WhatsApp is the standard here

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My company used to use WhatsApp for official communication. Then it came out that Facebook was going to start collecting a whole crap ton of information from users, so I downloaded Signal and told my small group of coworkers that WhatsApp was not secure for official communication. They all downloaded it and eventually the whole company moved to it.

All it takes is a few people to switch over in a friend group or work setting and for them to advocate for its benefits to get large groups to move. Gotta keep pushing for it.

Edit: This is the US where most people use SMS for personal communication though.

[–] RedIce25@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Norway. I've never used WhatsApp and don't know anybody that uses it. Everybody is on Facebook messenger, snapchat or discord.

[–] dosesingko@dzle125.stream 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes, whatsapp isn't popular here, but we are forced to use Facebook Messenger so Zuck's got it covered.

Philippines.

[–] jacktherippah@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm from Vietnam. It's the same here. Facebook seems to be really popular on Asia huh?

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

It's a tragedy. I'm trying to get my (filipino) mom to try signal haha.

[–] uncle@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

America. Most everyone uses SMS. Unlimited SMS texting is standard for nearly all cell plans.

[–] whenever8186@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

UK here. Most people I work with will have Signal or Telegram. However my kids and the parents groups and schools all use WhatsApp.

None of them could get their friends to switch from WhatsApp. Nobody gives a shit at all about Meta and their dodgy data practices. Convenience is king. "aLL mY frIEnDs aRE oN WHatSaPp!"

They will literally be excluded if they don't use it.

Super-frustrating and makes me feel pretty helpless tbh.

[–] Bazzatron@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Basically the same here. WhatsApp is basically "dial-a-boomer" on my phone.

Little sad that Signal dropped SMS support, but I get it.

[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago

NW Europe here.

I can’t stop using WhatsApp without taking a significant hit to my social life.

[–] FluffyPotato@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Estonian here.

I use WhatsApp to talk to my mom and we aren't allowed to use it for work. Only our locally hosted Skype instance for business talk, even teams is off limits for more secret stuff since its not fully locally hosted.

[–] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Australia, I have never used whatsapp

[–] 0ddysseus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Australian here. Don't know of anyone who uses WhatsApp. Different organizations and demographics uses a range of different platforms like Facebook messenger, MS Teams, Slack, Discord etc. From my perspective those are all about the same level.

At least most official comms either government or business is SMS, phone, or email.

Happy for other Aussies to correct me of course, thsrs just my quick perspective

[–] Beowulf@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

We use whatsapp at work because a majority of people have iPhones, not an issue but group chats with Android users (half of the department I'm working for, myself included) cause issues with the actual texts.

From what I've looked into, simplified, Apple is at fault for not properly implementing cross-compatible version of imessage. (Iirc, it's RTC but can't quite remember all at the moment)

[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In Panama literally everyone uses it.

[–] Borkingheck@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I wish my contractor subby group admin would use discord. We will have several site visits which need up to six people in attendance and there is only the whatsapp for organising it. I often think it would be easier to have a discord with different rooms for each site visit. That would mean id only reveive notifications about my specific not work and not every single interaction.

[–] TheRealBob@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

USA here. Only reason I have WhatsApp is to stay in touch with friends in Europe and South America. Not a single one of my American friends or relatives uses it.

[–] SevenDigitCode@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep. USA is really just iMessage/SMS, with maybe Discord/GroupMe sometimes

[–] WhipperSnapper@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My friend group uses google the same way apple users use imessage. The implementation has changed many times over the years (google chat, sms integration, hangouts chat, whatever), but it's always basically been the same thing and it's usable from any device. That's my main complaint about ~~signal ~~ and telegram: if I'm at home, forget using my stupid tiny phone, lemme do it from my PC that I'm probably on anyway.

edit: tried to strike out signal, but it's ignoring the formatting I guess.

[–] phar@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can get signal for Linux, windows, and macos

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] themarty27@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

Bulgarian here. Telegram, Viber and Instagram chat are infinitely more popular than WhatsApp for private use. As for business, no clue.

[–] UnfairUtan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

French here.

I chose to "force" my way out of WhatsApp and facebook messenger. All my friends and family used it, as well as some colleagues. I managed to move my family group chat to signal, and then chose to lose all the other group chats and see how it would work after a few months. In the end, the most important people to me moved with me. As for the other ones, it made planning for events and such a bit harder, but it didn't prevent me from keeping in touch with anybody.

[–] JdW@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dutchman. Whatsapp is not used for business in any instance I am aware off, nor should it be because of many compliance reasons. But private conversations/group chats are next to impossible without whatsapp.

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

Some companies definitely use WhatsApp unfortunately

[–] Nekobambam@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Japan here. We don’t use WhatsApp at all. Line tends to be forced down our throats, though. I’ve so far managed to avoid using it but do get weird looks when people want to communicate over Line and I refuse.

[–] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

For now I haven't had to use it for work or school, but it's really common for organizations and student groups, so I'd be missing on a lot if I completely stopped using it (France).

[–] justlookingfordragon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (8 children)

German here. My last employer was visibly confused when I told him that I neither have a Whatsapp account nor a smartphone, and didn't want either one. Apparently it was his preferred way of changing shifts last minute and he was pissed that I didn't want to participate in that bullshit. So you want to send me a notification after effing midnight that I have to come in at 5 AM instead of 6 AM? Miss me with that shit.

Luckily I found a better job elsewhere (and they do NOT require any social media accounts - if they want to change something, they call me and ASK whether I am ok with it).

load more comments (8 replies)
[–] SpeedLimit55@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yes, whatsapp is not popular in USA. An iPhone is basically expected for messaging though.

[–] HamSwagwich@showeq.com 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lol no it's not. I've never even had someone ask me what kind of phone I have.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Im28xwa@lemdro.id 1 points 1 year ago

yeah pretty easy

load more comments
view more: next ›