Meta

There is nothing to gain from interaction with Meta/Threads

Meta don't deserve any chances, I'm here to get away from that toxic bull and would much prefer it to be blocked from any instance I interact with.

For completeness there was a discussion (outdated) a few months back on this for anyone interested: https://aussie.zone/post/401165

Fully agreed, anyone who doesn't either works for Meta or can't see the writing on the wall about what this will do to the fediverse.

I'll be blocking it the first time it shows up on my feed anyway.

Unfortunately, as much as I like Lemmy. It's kind of stuck in a catch-22 situation.

The bigger it grows the more likely it is to be destroyed by "bad actors"

I presume this will be the case, but don’t think there’s been any official announcement yet. The majority of current servers have planned to resist by defederating.

So this means I'll be seeing what people post on threads in my lemmy app?

I don't quite understand, would it be harder to defederate later, once they start becoming evil? Lemmy and Mastodon were founded to actively distance ourselves from the likes of Twitter and Reddit. We're not here because it's the only option we have or because we're creating a whole new system. We're here because we chose to and decide that we could live without relying on those big corporations. Surely, people here are more willing to give Meta the middle finger and wouldn't mind blocking Threads if that ever happened right?

This seems like a very important discussion but let me tell you how I came across it. It's possible many others on Aussie Zone fall into a similar boat as mine. If not please ignore.

I only use Voyager to interact with Lemmy regularly. Occasionally I check out Aussie Zone via a browser but that's very rare.

I think the 'Default feed' for Voyager is 'Home' which are the coms I've subbed to. I didn't even know what 'Local' was until I looked it up just now (while trying to find out if Voyager can list all the coms of an instance like the coms page in a desktop browser, which I don't think it does).

So I was surprised not to see this discussion earlier after seeing it pop up more broadly across the lemmyverse. Turns out that's because I never selected the Local feed to see what everyone is talking about and because I wasn't subbed to Meta (as in the Aussie Zone com, not the company) until now.

If my ignorance is unusual for Aussie Zone folk then please ignore this comment. If it's possible that lots of other active or semi-active local users are not seeing this discussion is there any way to highlight it across the instance?

This elitism bandwagoning hurts the goal of providing alternatives to closed source proprietary platforms for social media.

If you want an open and viable alternative to proprietary platforms running social media then you must have a willingness to include those who want to be part of said platforms.

~~This is how I think about this.~~

Edit - this is what comes to mind when I think about this

I posted this link in a reply but I'll put it here just incase. According to this part of the threads TOS by interacting with a threads user they will collect your data and send targeted ads.

https://mastodon.online/@mastodonmigration/111585528118111249

Forgive my newbness, but is it up to instance owners to defederate? Or individual users? I don’t really know how it works.

A few points to make on this topic:

1. There is presently nobody to defederate from: They aren't in the fediverse yet, and while we can guess they'll use threads.net as their domain, that's all it would be - a guess. There is no point preemptively defederating from that domain when we don't even know it's what they'll use in federation.
2. Defederating is trivial from the instance level. Just type their domain to the "blocked instances" setting and it's done for everyone. This move can be made at any time in under a minute.
3. A change to the behaviour of aussie.zone this large will likely be passed by the users in some way. It's not a thing to undertake lightly.
4. The new Lemmy allows users to block instances for them personally. If you don't want to personally interract with Threads, just add them to your block list and it's done. You won't see anything from that instance. It'll also mean you won't see replies to their comments made from here. ^*^

^*^ You can't actually defederate from them yet, as the "block instance" UI searches for federated domains and won't permit you to add threads.net as that domain is not federated. You'll need to do this if/when they actually federate with the rest of us.

Meta is a cancer, there is no benefit to the company being given any access to this instance.