And where will the parts of the European cars be sourced from?
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Its interesting to watch how the different approaches Turn Out. Germany just now massivly cut back in EV incentives. Its huge Car corporations are already struggling in the EV Market and especially in China.
With french Companies offering a Car in the 20k⬠range, German manufacturers fall even further behind.
Meanwhile Germany still bets in selling traditional Cars in the shrinking Chinese Market..
Yes but tank-size luxury EVs, so hot right now!
I want a Leopard 2A7-E
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With french Companies offering a Car in the 20k⬠range
With a battery rental in the order of 80 β¬ per month on top. It's easy to offer a cheap car if the most expensive component isn't sold along with it.
True, but that don't seems to be a bad idea after all: it make the car less expensive when you buy it so maybe more people could afford one and currently for that montly price you will not even do one full tank of fuel here.
It is a good idea. I just don't like being forced to rent it. I want to buy a car so that it is mine, but the French don't offer that.
A possibility is that this way the manufacturer is sure to get the batter yback at any time, which means that probably once it the battery is under a certain max charge capacity. As far as I remember, Renault is/was doing something like this with the Zoe batteries: once they are no more good to be used for a car, they were refitted for home usage with solar panels.
But I get your point.
Germany has cut back in EV sales insetives, but not in subsidies for building up factories. Right now half of the battery factories being planned in the EU are planned in Germany, with German car makers being a massive driver of it. Volkswagen sells twice as many EVs as Stellantis and BMW is only a bit behind Stellantis. As for German car makers in China, they are all starting to wall of that site of the business from the rest of the company. So they can sell it quickly or are at least in a better position to cut it off when sanctions start.
Good. Keep them out.
100β¬ a month for ppl that can afford to buy an ev while most ppl drive a 20 year old car that is falling apart bc ppl can't afford a new one seems like is not really helping the people thay need help
So I wasn't sure which one of us misunderstood so I went to read on the French page, and it is indeed a scheme where people with low income can lease the car for 100β¬ per month, as in that's what they'll have to pay per month, rather than a discount on the price of a normal lease.
oy that's nice then
this is borderline communist for Macron. What happened to him?
He was always like this and has been distributing public money left and right. France's public spending and taxation as a share of GDP are at all time highs.
It's just the French left thinks everybody to their right is a spawn of Reagan and Thatcher.
It's so nationalistic and anti China that it came full circle.
Given that who is driving a 20 year old car (but car's age does not really matter) now spend much more than 100 β¬ a month for the fuel, it does not seems to be that expensive.
And anyway 20k β¬ for a car are not that much these days if you want to buy a brand new car. I get that many people could not even afford that much, but it is not that nowadays an used car is much less expensive, if you want a decent one.