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[–] empireOfLove@lemmy.one 272 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (19 children)

Ayo I'm in the screenshot letsa fucking GOOOOOOOOOO-

For context, Bungiefan_ak has no fewer than 4 alts that I've seen (all on different instances with the same username) and has spent his time on !memes@lemmy.ml continuously spamming heavily transphobic, homophobic, and objectifying sexist "memes". Just about every one of his alts is now banned but I'm sure more will pop up.

Now, why the fuck he cares so much about pirates at this point, I haven't a clue....

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 102 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

There's likely going to be more

[–] empireOfLove@lemmy.one 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Doing the lord's work. What a shitfest of a modlog, real winner this guy is

Edit: dear God he keeps MAKING MORE. This dude seriously needs to get a life or something

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[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 69 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe he just likes to argue with people. I have 1 such classmate. His "opinions" are always just opposite to who he's talking with. But apparently outside of school he's normal.

[–] acastcandream@beehaw.org 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s easy to be a contrarian when opinions are not something you actually hold, but simply hats to be swapped out or discarded as necessary.

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[–] Emma_Gold_Man@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Probably because one of his alts was on dbzer0 and was banned for transphobia

[–] empireOfLove@lemmy.one 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh. Oh that makes so much more sense. His sad little idea of vengeance is to now attack anything piracy related and get dbzero ostracized from LW just because pirates have more morals than he does lol

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[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The troll doesn't care, at all. It got banned clearly or it would be trolling here directly, it's retaliation. Child psychology will tell you everything you'd need to know about that "user".

[–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe we shouldn't feed that troll ?

I think in that case a shadowban would be the best way to do it. Or an IP ban if that's possible.

In any case this is giving him even more reason to keep on harassing people for attention.

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

These are the alts, counts, scores, and ban status my instance is aware of:

     name     |      domain      | banned | posts | comments | post_score | comment_score 
--------------+------------------+--------+-------+----------+------------+---------------
 Bungiefan_ak | lemmy.world      | t      |     0 |        0 |          0 |             0
 Bungiefan_ak | lemmy.dbzer0.com | t      |     0 |        2 |          0 |           -14
 Bungiefan_ak | startrek.website | t      |     0 |        0 |        -35 |            -4
 Bungiefan_ak | reddthat.com     | t      |     0 |        0 |          0 |             0
 Bungiefan_ak | lemm.ee          | t      |     0 |        7 |          0 |          -119
 Bungiefan_ak | lemdro.id        | f      |     0 |        0 |          0 |           -22
 Bungiefan_ak | geddit.social    | f      |     0 |        0 |          0 |           -30
 Bungiefan_ak | sopuli.xyz       | t      |     0 |        0 |          0 |             0
 Bungiefan_ak | lemmy.ca         | t      |     0 |        0 |          0 |             0
 Bungiefan_ak | sh.itjust.works  | t      |     0 |        7 |          0 |          -287
[–] csolisr@communities.azkware.net 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well that's a record, not a single positive score in sight from any of the accounts

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[–] Landrin201@lemmy.ml 153 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Corporations when some dude steals a copy of a 30 year old movie: 😡

Corporations when they steal billions from their workers salaries every year: 🤑

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 43 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Taking money for a 30-year-old movie is pretty much government-assisted stealing, if I'm honest. Copyright in the USA originally had a term of 14 years.

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[–] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 119 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] gabe 114 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

yall, this dude tried signing up to my instance a few nights ago. yall wanna see why many communities have registration approvals? see below. warning for nsfw language

NSFW language

[–] DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz 60 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Fuck I love the "ok" as deny reason...so simple, so beautiful.

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[–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 46 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Still laughing at the vast amount of people coming from reddit and expecting only chill people to be on lemmy. Like lemmy users are somehow immune to toxicity.

It's less toxic overall but we (or mostly the moderators) will have to fight them all the time.

At least it will improve the moderation tools which is always a good thing.

[–] gabe 42 points 1 year ago (8 children)

When I realized it was that dude who tried signing up to my instance I lost my shit laughing, if he was screened prior it's obvious he wouldn't have gotten in. This is precisely what happens when you focus on growth over organically cultivating a healthy community.

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[–] GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee 52 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Lmao this is the guy that first lead to them banning the communities right?

Love that lemmy.world seems to be making their moderation strategy based off of a troll with at least 4 alts....

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What a fucking loser crying about intellectual property. Love live piracy and anarchy. Be gay do crime! 🏴 🏴‍☠️ 🏳️‍🌈 🏳️‍⚧️ yo ho ho 🦜 nikopirate custom emoji

[–] acastcandream@beehaw.org 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

I think people who are pro-piracy tend to be a little dogmatic in the wrong direction, refusing to exercise their imagination or contemplate situations where people can be legitimately hurt financially or otherwise by their actions. However, most of the arguments are pretty sound, and I can’t imagine working that hard making new accounts just to argue in favor of movie/record studios that have exploited artists for as long as they have existed.

The “filthy” line was just funny to me lol

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[–] S13Ni@lemmy.studio 48 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I buy most of my content, steam mostly for games, have spotify, buy music from bandcamp for DJ sets, at least my favorites, have family netflix, HBO, disney +, although I don't use those as much since they are mostly full of crap. Sometimes I even buy/rent a movie if it is not available in those and I can't find any torrent, or just out of convenience. I produce music and buy all my audio software (ableton and fuckton of plugins) because I don't want to deal with the hassle of using pirated versions. I buy ebooks every now and then too, although with that I also admittely pirate some, especially when the author is dead, in which case I really don't feel any guilt for pirating it. I also use patreon often and support creators that way.

I still think piracy needs to be an option, so streaming services can't have their way and we are just forced to use their enshittified platforms. I avoid it, because I understand not everything can be open source, and nothing get's done without revenue. I don't pirate from small authors/creators.

All the while musicians get basically fucking nothing from huge streaming services profiting from their labor. Series get cancelled left and right despite good reception because they were not profitable enough, although still profitable, because netflix is only interested making next big hit. Games are filled with microtransactions and kernel level tracking (anti cheat), forced online features in single player game and sometimes games one bought are just made unavailable, like with old mobile games (case in point, dead space mobile). Professional software is often moved to predatory subscription models and paywalled updates to the software, like Avid, Waves.

And people still cirlejerk about piracy being the worst thing to intellectual property ever. Problem isn't piracy, problem is small creators are payed so little from listens/views/whatever that the can barely get by, and have to make alternate source of income via patreon or some other stuff. Piracy won't even make a dent in that.

Luckily in every category some people/companies are pushing back but all of this is just case in point why we need piracy. When I get around releasing music/games, I don't mind piracy at all, might even put my own tunes on pirate sites out of spite. Current intellectual property laws are fucking joke and only benefit the largest creators in their respective fields.

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[–] BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It just looks like some Lemmy users are falling for an obvious troll.

[–] Stoneykins@mander.xyz 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

the lemmy.world admins specifically fell for it, since they did block this community.

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[–] nerrad@lemmy.ml 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ah, reading these comments make me feel like I'm back on Reddit.

[–] Artaca@lemdro.id 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yup. Folks looking for stuff to be salty about. Those admins were protecting their hides and had every right to do so. Hosting carries risks. What could have been handled better was communicating this (a day or three beforehand + not on Discord lmao). The people acting like this is some sort of unforgivable problem are just being dorks. Don't like it? Pop onto a new instance. It's easy and is a perfect example as to why Lemmy is great.

Edit: Worth mentioning that the piracy community is among the most active groups on the entire platform. As a viable alternative to reddit, I don't think piracy being the face of Lemmy is a great look. Newcomers may start on LW and never need or want this community. Those who want it WILL find it.

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[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 40 points 1 year ago

Sounds a like a fucking corpo plant.

[–] razrabotka@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Gonna commit copyright infringement later, just to spite this poor man even more

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I’m infringing copyright as I type this

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[–] Gsus4@feddit.nl 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Still, one of the key aspects of piracy is discreteness and these debates and notoriety don't help with that. Piracy does not look for you, you look for it, if you know how to find out how. The last thing I want is for every single Lemmy thread about netflix to have a top comment saying piracy is better than streaming.

[–] Cedarwood@lemmy.sdf.org 37 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Neat! Deeply ineffective communication! Starting to feel more like reddit by the day!

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[–] jsnc@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Piracy of software is always moral in the face of proprietary software.

They have stolen so much from us that we have all right to revolt.

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[–] BlueEther@no.lastname.nz 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They look like they are having fun on line:

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[–] Carion@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Most pirates doesn't use the product if pirated version isn't avaliable, they aren't a costumer, blocking piracy is actually a bad marketing decision, people can build hype even if they aren't paying. No significant revenue is actually lost for piracy

[–] rab@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Piracy also kept the music industry afloat before Spotify and whatever

It's free advertising and costs nothing to the artist

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[–] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Them defederating piracy communities was the nail in the coffin for me, just deleted account.

First was some weird shit about a porn community with petite girls and how it invites pedophiles. Even though that one doesn't affect me, it's still like uhhhhh, petite women exist......

Now this piracy shit. It's like they're pushing their morals and "concerns" onto every member without consent. Reddit still has piracy and petite subreddits, which paints somewhat of a picture of how non issue they are.

Hopefully shitjustworks is fast, stable, and doesn't pull that shit.

[–] ruckblack@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

To be fair, the petite girl controversy thing was the lemmy.blahaj.zone admin being a weird tyrant, not lemmy.world. Unless they did the same thing at LW lol. Thus far shitjustworks has been reliable and unobtrusive for me.

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[–] Sused@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 1 year ago

Obvious troll is obvious

[–] Cris_Color@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I genuinely do understand concerns about legal issues and the risk of facilitating illegal activities- but its not even hosted on their instance, why would it mater that the communities EXIST. They're literally hosted by someone else...?

[–] CapillaryUpgrade@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 1 year ago (13 children)

But it is hosted on your home server.

When you subscribe to a community, your home server downloads the content and passes it on to you.

This is not like when The Pirate Bay was allowed to live because it only hosted torrent files and not copyrighted content, in the fediverse, you copy the content to your own server, and pass it on to the client/user, which means hosting the content.

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[–] 018118055@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I wish them luck in their quixotic quest to police the entire lemmyverse

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