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Mathematically they're equivalent, but the feelings could not be further apart.

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[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 78 points 11 months ago (3 children)

living to the fullest

Until, abruptly, you aren't.

[–] Nindelofocho@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 11 months ago

Speaking from experience, the former is extremely likely. Given the increase in sociopathic driving, I'll not be riding on slabs again anytime soon. I really don't want to get hit by another truck.

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[–] Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Just assume you are invisible and that all the other vehicles will do the worst likely thing, and you might be alright.

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[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Motorcycle licences should come with an organ donor registration card

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

At least in my state all drivers license applications do.

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 55 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If you ride motorcycles: please be an organ donor.

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 4 points 11 months ago
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[–] pozbo@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago

Good, there is a serious shortage of donor organs.

[–] Stegget@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Plus think of all the groceries you'll haul on that motorcycle. The savings are endless!

[–] Nindelofocho@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I do often carry all my groceries and still have room for a full size first aid kit on my bike. Panniers are a game changer and I dont even need a backpack 90% of the time

[–] NENathaniel@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago

I go on grocery trips on my cheap Escooter 🤷 it works, just get a good backpack

[–] ratman150@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

I can haul about the same amount of groceries on my bike/partner's scoot as our car...which tbf is a fiat 500 but nonetheless I can easily get a weeks groceries on a bike.

Love the down votes lol, you may disagree with me but facts are facts.

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[–] Philharmonic3@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I ride the subway. Checkmate

[–] Nindelofocho@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How do you commute on a sandwhich?

[–] Philharmonic3@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago
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[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 23 points 11 months ago
[–] ratman150@sh.itjust.works 22 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Jesus lotta "motorcycles are a deathtrap" in here.

Hi, I've been riding for 10 years on all different kinds of machines through many lengths of commute/fun. allow me to be abrupt motorcycles cost more than a Prius to own. The tires don't last as long, the maintenance is more frequent, obviously the gear you absolutely should be wearing is expensive but hey if none of that bothers you please continue to enjoy riding.

It's not very active but there's a motorcycle community here on lemmy, please join us ;)

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Something about the phrase "living to the fullest" doesn't allude to sensible motorcycle safety precautions.

[–] ratman150@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

There is an entire sub culture of motorcyclists that agree, I do not however condone riding without appropriate gear.

[–] Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I agree with that as well. I ride a cruiser and I wear a full face helmet, jacket, boots or shoes covering the ankles, and at least thick denim pants. Sometimes I think about getting a 3/4 helmet but I don't think I could bring myself to do it.

When I was real hardcore riding everyday I wore waterproof jacket, pants, and boots. Now I just don't ride in the rain at all if I can help it.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As one on an extended hiatus due to getting hit by an SUV and high-siding, I recommend only using a full face or highly rated modular with a good lock. I have a face because of my HJC modular and am not confident in anything without a chinbar.

[–] ratman150@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I've often wondered why people gravitate so much to quarter and even half helmets for this reason. They do protect your head better than nothing but also expose your face (in the case of a quarter helmet) to the ground.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I suspect that, for some, it is the misconcption that the visor limits field of view in a meaningful way. Might have been the case 40-50 years ago but seems a rarity with modern helmets.

[–] ratman150@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Back on that site that sounded like read it I asked some of these people and it just boiled down to "because I can/freedumb".

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ah yeah. I forget about that set of bikers often as I only associated with the ADV folks who are all about ATGATT. Really weird to me to think that people actually want to be PPE luddites and miss the chance to wear a modern suit of armor, without being out of place or violating the laws of some municipalities.

[–] ratman150@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

Yeah I never understood it myself. I once had a run in with one of those "hard ass types" while on a little virago 250 and they proceeded to lecture me on the ways of the roads...which was entirely just giving them right of way always no matter what. He was annoyed at me for passing him on a 250...in traffic.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 11 months ago
[–] Nindelofocho@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It is really strange seeing that rhetoric here too especially with the “fuck cars” group. A lot of countries other than the US have way more riders and less of the squid culture going on because its more of just the norm over there. Also to compliment your picture heres one of me camping with the bike:

[–] ratman150@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Is that a Tracer 900? I've only seen people putting around on those I love your setup.

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[–] Resistentialism@feddit.uk 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Can you link the community?

[–] ratman150@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[–] Resistentialism@feddit.uk 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Holy shit, thank you so much.

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[–] CommunityLinkFixer@lemmings.world 4 points 11 months ago

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !motorcycles@lemmy.world

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[–] pixeltree@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, priuses are really low maintenance for the most part, it's nice. And motorcycles aren't necessarily the death traps people are making out here, higher risk yes but if you're a defensive, aware driver and not a squid it's really not bad. Motorcycles don't tend to attract defensive drivers though.

[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

The defensive drivers are here, they just aren't yelling at everyone about how their gixxer 600 does 180mph

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[–] jonsnothere@beehaw.org 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well with a motorcycle you'll have a much better chance of never having to spend money on gas for the rest of your life

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[–] senseamidmadness@beehaw.org 12 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Depends on the motorcycle. Anything loosely above 500cc and the fuel efficiency gets worse than a Prius.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 11 months ago

Especially if your having “fun” with it.

[–] Flumsy@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago

One full tank of gas on your motorcycle could be enough for a lifetime...

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[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What about the rain? Ha! Got’im

[–] ratman150@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Rain gear + many bikes have fairings that especially when traveling at speed cause the rain to mostly travel around you.

[–] Nindelofocho@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Worst case is oh no you get a little wet. We all know people cant get wet or something catastrophic will happen

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