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I thought this was kind of a fun way to show discontent with Chromiums added Web Integration - someone made a pull request to simply remove it.

Its already been approved by a lot of us, why not add your approval as well? Click the Approve button and add your name to the list of people supporting the removal.

Google will of course not care but I thought it was a fun gesture.

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[–] ddnomad@infosec.pub 42 points 1 year ago
[–] porkins@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

With the TL;DR being: Google/Alphabet wants to more easily block non-chrome browsers ability to use their services, and prevent the use of adblocking.

Which also means that many people using accessability tools will be unable to access them. And they are trying to get Firefox to implement it as well, so they don't take all the blame when shit hits the fan and they start getting multi-billion dollar monopoly fines from the EU.

[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's ad blocking and entire operating systems, or computers configured in any way they don't like.

If this goes through, they can force you to install any plugins they wish, or disable any plugins they wish. Or make sure you don't run Linux and only Windows or Mac. They can force you to have your camera on. They can do anything since they make the rules.

No innovation will take place. Competing browsers or software will not be allowed or manipulated into marketed as "unsafe".

This is a takeover of the open web stack as we know it.

[–] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

They also could use it to slowly push ChromeOS-only features and services. Don't forget they have their own "OS"!

[–] Libertus@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] kitonthenet@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago
[–] dingsbums@feddit.de 26 points 1 year ago
[–] zombuey@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

worth noting you can sign the CLA and you vote is not just a protest but a legitimate vote.

[–] Ruthalas@infosec.pub 8 points 1 year ago

Can you give more detail on this?

[–] Ultra980@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't forget to report the proposal as malicious code!

[–] spaceduck@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Ultra980@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the repository, there's a button on the right that says "Report this repository". Click on it, then select malicious code and other type of malicious code. Make sure to specify it's against the free, open web and w3c standards!

[–] spaceduck@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Done, thanks.

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Um... I don't use Github personally (although I should.. I know..) so.. how do I do this?

[–] TheEntity@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why should you? Git, yes. GitHub? Only if you want to.

[–] bob_lemon@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Log in to your GitHub account and click on the review button off that pull request (see below). Then select approve and maybe add a comment.

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks! Done!

[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago

Create an account and log in. Follow the link and click the green button. Thank you. :)

[–] RobotToaster@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

If you have an account, click the green "review changes" button, select "approve", and then click "submit review"

[–] anyone_yun@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 7 points 1 year ago

If we can't have fun, what can we do right. :)

[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Done. Good riddance.

[–] BlueKey@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago
[–] pglpm@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

Neat idea! +1

I just had to explain to my wife how much of a nerd I am that I'm laughing at a GitHub pull request

[–] vappster@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
[–] Kory@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the initiative, approved.

[–] pglpm@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's reached 333 protesters! that's 1/3 of the way to 1000, it'd be cool if it kept on increasing :)

[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah I don't know if someone posted it on reddit, could help I guess.

[–] Goodie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you want to protest that much just use Firefox...

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Chromium is by far the dominant browser engine. What they do is effectively the standard and implemented by websites and thus approved. That's why this has to be stopped there.

[–] Durotar@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Google doesn't care about this protest because it has no real impact on their business. This is more of an emotional thing, this is for us. I'm not saying that people shouldn't fight. But in reality, spreading information about the upcoming change and urging people to switch to other browsers (along with replacing other services) is the only thing that could produce tangible results in the long term. Hence, I tend to agree with the user above.

[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We will see. It could get picked up by some media person and made into a bigger thing. After all, many developers are approving this at a rapid pace right now, several per minute.

If I was writing an article about this as a tech journalist, I would include that x number of developers have signed a PR trying to remove this shit from chromium. It has a value as a symbolic message.

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A picture of people who approved so far :)

And the page with a timeline and some comments:

https://github.com/chromium/chromium/pull/187

[–] Goodie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Once upon a time IE6 was the dominant browser engine.

[–] Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And there are still WebApps today (especially in the business internal network world) that only work with IE6 because Microsoft was just throwing their own standards out and doing whatever they wanted.

When you are the dominant player and you make standards that no one else can follow, you destroy competition. We got lucky that businesses and developers liked blink and WebKit, if businesses had been able to make more money from only supporting trident that's exactly what would have happened. "Use IE without tabs or an adblocker or you can't access Facebook, Steam, Gmail, your bank, etc"

You don't have the choice as an individual when the choice is made for you.

[–] Goodie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You have a choice as an individual today, but you might not in a few years.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 4 points 1 year ago

And it took some painful decades to change that.

[–] pglpm@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago

Luckily "effectively the standard" is just a temporary thing. What browser was considered "standard" has changed many times in the past, and will continue to change in the future. Of course for this to happen everyone who cares must keep on pushing.

[–] mjhagen@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Goodie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Honestly the best response.

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