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Donald J. Trump’s declaration Tuesday night that he would be a “dictator” only on “Day One” of his presidency wasn’t to be taken seriously, Fox News host Jesse Watters insisted Wednesday.

“It’s only a dictatorship for one day, guys,” Watters began, chuckling. “He’ll just sit and sign executive orders like Biden did.”

Trump, Watters claimed, “knows exactly what he is doing.”

“He’s teasing the press and they just took the bait,” he claimed, before playing clips of two MSNBC contributors who—unlike Watters—were not taking Trump lightly.

“Look how unhappy these people look. MSNBC needs to relax. And don’t you dare laugh at Trump’s jokes. They aren’t funny,” the Fox host said, before going to another round of clips, this time from the rival network’s Morning Joe show.

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[–] DefiantBidet@lemmy.world 122 points 11 months ago (3 children)

In 2016 I heard people say they like Trump bc he says what he means.

For someone who says what they mean, there sure is a lot of explaining intent coming from the right.

Every 4 years we get the summer Olympics, and yet the hurdles competition there still ain't in the level of MAGAts trying to walk back the latest Trump comment.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 47 points 11 months ago

"you can't take him literally, but you have to take him seriously." actual MAGoo quote.

[–] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago

2016 was two things at the same time:

  • "He says what he means."
  • "That's just locker room talk."

Often said one right after the other.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 90 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's always a "joke" when he gets criticized for saying something absolutely atrocious.

[–] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's Schrödinger's douchebag

If you agree with him it's real, if you disagree it was a joke, stop being so uptight

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 64 points 11 months ago

I agree. He was joking about it only being one day.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 52 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (8 children)

That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it. <---- this one
And if I did, you deserved it.

*arrow mine. may it find Trump's knee.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

(G)aslight (O)bject (P)roject and DARVO describes their behavior to a T.

Deny Attack Reverse Victim and Offender

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARVO

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Of course they did. a tan suit is far beneath the office, but joking about being a fascist is not. Makes perfect sense

[–] pozbo@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago

Oops hahah the guillotine went off haha it was just a joke, stop rolling away haha lmao.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago

Trump always lies about what he’s done.

He never lies about what he wants to do.

If he says he wants to be a dictator, then that’s exactly who he wants to be.

[–] TheMusicalFruit@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Joking about becoming a dictator would make you unelectable 20 years ago. Remember when Howard Dean got excited at a rally and screamed a bit too loud? That was 20 years ago and it completely sank his campaign. Though he didn’t stand much of a chance against John Kerry for the nomination, his campaign was doomed after that.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago

It wasn't the scream, it was the media gas lighting the electorate into thinking the scream was disqualifying. If he hadn't screamed, they would have used something else.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

20 years ago

John Kerry

No, that can't be right. Wasn't 20 years ago when Bill Clinton was running?

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Nah dude, he was president like two weeks ago. I downloaded all of his songs about Monica Lewinsky from Napster just the other day, right?

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Look, it's only a joke until I decide it's not - Trump

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

It's Schrodinger's Joke. You say something awful and it's simultaneously a joke and not a joke until the people hearing it react. That collapses the wave function. If people get offended, then it was just a joke. If people cheer for it, then it was serious.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah it's not a joke though. Why would I believe fox news? And why wouldn't I believe Trump?

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 4 points 11 months ago

When someone tells you who they are, believe them until they demonstrate otherwise.

[–] Mercival@lemm.ee 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The only Jesse Watters clip I can get behind is the one where his mom tells him how disappointed she is in him for lying to people for profit.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

His mother sounded like she was a nice person. So what the fuck happened to him?

[–] Im14abeer@midwest.social 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ahh ha ha ha, ahh ha ha ha! Dictatorships are soooo freaking funny guys. Remember when the US backed Pinochet's military junta in Chile? God that was hilarious. Super funny when they started disappearing people. And the torture, good times, good times.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Oh, you mean the conflict that's glorified by right-wing terrorist groups today because it targeted leftists?

Fun reminder that the GOP today has the same enemies as the Nazis: sexual, ethnic, and religious minorities & leftists. Its not a coincidence, its a plan.

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[–] Zink@programming.dev 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I can only hope that the name Jesse Watters is lost to history, and not studied by future historians trying to figure out how the fuck we let Trump come to power a second time.

[–] OrangeJoe@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago

I can only hope history remembers that one time on his first day of his new job when his mom called him live on air to tell him not to do exactly the shit he is doing.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 16 points 11 months ago

The amount of mental gymnastics this crowd needs to go through to defend Trump. Wild.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I fear it’ll take blood in the streets before people really see what this is all about.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There's already been blood in the streets.

A Nazi from a Nazi march ran down an innocent woman and killed her. Trump said that there are 'fine people on both sides.'

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Rivers of blood in the streets.

[–] mystik@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

And before anyone says we're snowflakes and can't take a joke -- he's not joking. This was not a joke. Vote accordingly, and be warned, you do NOT want to be living in a dictatorship.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 months ago

"But if he was a dictator, that would be good actually" --same guy

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 11 points 11 months ago

Sure, it’s “just a prank, bro.”

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Let me walk into a bank and joke about robbing it. Only if I get caught, of course.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Literally tried to overthrow American democracy but somehow any mention of engaging in the actions of a dictator is supposed to be construed as an obvious joke.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Yeah, the end of America is just hilarious. Anyway, why would anyone believe these gaslighting assholes? They also claimed (and many continue to) that they have no plans to end abortion nationwide. Same with other rights like birth control and gay marriage.

Don't believe any of them. They are liars.

[–] drasticpotatoes@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 11 months ago

It’s good to know that Fox News can’t stop sucking him off and is still not to be trusted.

[–] detalferous@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago

Trump doesn't make jokes. Ever.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Just like how Palpatine said that "he was the Senate" hahah good times. Glad to see it was only a joke and he didn't userp the power of the entire galactic Republic and become an emperor /s

[–] EvilEyedPanda@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Pay no attention to the dictator behind the suit!

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If only there was some way for a news organization that regularly interviews him to get a straight answer on the specific question of whether he intends to be a dictator for any period of time.

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You kidding? A straight answer? He would just dance around, never complete a sentence and the interviewer would thank him for it.

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[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

We have been through all this before. Who are they trying to fool?

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

They also insist that I hit a guy with my car. I did not. I know who not to believe.

[–] ThatOneBatTurd@lemmy.one 3 points 11 months ago

"Just the tip" is always a lie

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