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Beeper Mini (play.google.com)
submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by HeavyRaptor@lemmy.zip to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
 

So there is this app claiming on-device iMessage functionality on Android. Seems cool but only has subscription based pricing. Does anyone know of a way to circumvent this?

Edit: I found this but it seems a bit dodgy

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[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Iirc the entire app is open-source, you can prob strip out the subscription parts and build it yourself

The original work/PoC they based it off of is PyPush and that definitely has a GitHub here: https://github.com/JJTech0130/pypush

If you can't/don't do the work, you'll have to wait, something will come along eventually but that app just came out the other day

[–] daisyKutter@lemmy.ml 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's just the proof of concept, there is a lot of work and infrastructure besides that code. You can read a more in depth explanation of how it works on their blog

https://blog.beeper.com/p/how-beeper-mini-works

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Yea I know it's a PoC, It's work, but not that much work...if you have the skill set lol

I was actually digging into JJTechs project a bit, I'm planning on building something of my own, but my version is going to try to tap into Androids messaging service instead so that I can use any SMS app I wish.

The idea being my service will be a translation layer of sorts instead of an independent app that I have to switch too.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 9 points 11 months ago

It's SSPL, so source available, not open source.

[–] HeavyRaptor@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago

This is great news, thanks!

[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 18 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The only person I know who has an iPhone is my fiance and we use Matrix to communicate or Signal as a fallback if I fuck up the Matrix server. So this app is not really for me.

I really wonder how long it will take Apple to just be able to detect and block it.

[–] Estebiu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago (4 children)

They can't block it, as it's using the standard imessage way. They could change the way iMessage works, but that would break iMessage support on older iOS devices that no longer are supported.

[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 1 points 11 months ago

One more reason for people to get a new iPhone 🥳

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 months ago

They'll probably find a way of authenticating that a phone number is using an iPhone, or start requiring an extra step when a number tries registering for use on its servers.

[–] Pyroglyph@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

that would break iMessage support on older iOS devices that no longer are supported

Yes, that's what "no longer supported" means.

[–] XyliaSky@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

In this context “no longer supported” just means “no longer receiving active development support”. Not “doesn’t work with the service”.

So actually no, that’s not what “no longer supported” means here, at all.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago

They haven't blocked any other third party apps using iMessage.

I don't really think they want to. It's kind of like pirating - more people are using the service.

[–] Pancito@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I had always dreamed of visiting California, the land of sun, surf and celebrities. So when I got the chance to go there for a week, I was over the moon. I packed my bags, grabbed my camera and boarded the plane.

I spent the first day in Los Angeles, where I saw the Hollywood sign, walked along the Walk of Fame and took a tour of the Universal Studios. I felt like I was in a movie. The next day, I drove to San Francisco, where I crossed the Golden Gate Bridge, visited the Alcatraz Island and rode a cable car. I was amazed by the diversity and culture of the city.

The rest of the week, I explored the natural beauty of California. I hiked in the Yosemite National Park, where I saw waterfalls, mountains and wildlife. I camped in the Sequoia National Park, where I marveled at the giant trees. I surfed in the Malibu Beach, where I enjoyed the waves and the sun.

It was the best vacation of my life. I took hundreds of photos and videos to capture every moment. But there was one problem: I didn't own an iPhone. So I couldn't share them with anyone.

[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 6 points 11 months ago

Sounds like the perfect vacation! (Including the last sentence)

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

If you can't figure out a way of sharing your photos (and you're not being sarcastic), you have very little imagination.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 15 points 11 months ago

Way to give Apple money in a round-about way. Truly genius.

[–] Sivilian@lemmy.zip 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you have an apple computer you can set something like this up for free.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago

And I believe the folks at Beeper published their self-host on Github.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Even a trial of this REQUIRES them to have billing info on file. Likely Apple is going to shut this down within a few months. If they don't, I imagine some better options may emerge.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And... It's done: https://lemmy.world/post/9325834

Callled it. Get your subscription cancelations in now. This was a thoughtless cash grab.

[–] andrew@radiation.party 1 points 11 months ago

Looks like beeper got their stuff working again.

Can’t imagine this working out very well long term though

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Apple hasn't shut down any other iMessage system, not the original bluebubbles.

[–] mosscap@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago
[–] daisyKutter@lemmy.ml -3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I definetely wouldn't trust that link; Beeper mini functionality requires you to conect to their servers for registration, initial handshake and push notifications so I don’t think there is a way to avoid a subscription

Edit for clarity: I wouldn't trust the apk you linked in your edit, not the original Beeper mini app in the play store

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz -3 points 11 months ago