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[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is arbitrary horseshit.

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’d say arbitrary but still interesting to think about. You could take 1,000 slices in time and get lost in the data, but it’s interesting just to look at a few I don’t think it claims to be EVERY country that no longer exists

[–] rojun@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Maybe this is a beginning of someone's mapping journey, so I wouldn't be too harsh on it. If you're interested in how the borders have changed throughout the history, you could also watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6Wu0Q7x5D0

[–] Kiosade@lemmy.ca 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I mean, what were the middle parts of Italy and Germany before? Wouldn’t those technically be countries that don’t exist anymore as well?

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 25 points 11 months ago (6 children)
[–] Kiosade@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah the Holy Roman Empire was quite the clusterfuck, fun to learn about though.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Neither Holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

talk amongst yourselves

[–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Confirmed by the pope, at least at the beginning, which for Christians at the time was as holy as it could get. At the start, it controlled Rome and was actively trying to copy certain Roman motifs. Even at the start it had multiple different language groups, If the Austro-Hungarians had an empire, then so did the Holy-Romans.

Voltaire was really just being a sassy bitch. /s

[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 11 months ago

Holy Christ on the bloody cross

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Now I got flashbacks from Advanced European History. Been 35+ years and you hit me with this. I won't be able to sleep tonight.

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago

Bishopric of

Muenster

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

That link won't load for me :(

[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Confirmed by the pope, at least at the beginning, which for Christians at the time was as holy as it could get. At the start, it controlled Rome and was actively trying to copy certain Roman motifs. Even at the start it had multiple different language groups, If the Austro-Hungarians had an empire, then so did the Holy-Romans.

Voltaire was really just being a sassy bitch. /s

[–] AntifaNI@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

What about the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland ?

Or the multiple Kingdoms which existed on both islands 1,000 + years ago ?

Historically just about the oldest recognisable country in Europe is France and even it's borders have shifted on multiple occasions.

[–] Chetzemoka@startrek.website 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

When I was a kid, Yugoslavia was a country.

[–] AntifaNI@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I used to work with a guy who was very insistent that he was Czechoslovak.

Not Czech nor Slovak but Czechoslovak !

Seemingly his Mother was one and his Father the other and he took great pride in his hybrid identity and allegiance to a country which no longer exists.

Probably loads of folk like that in the former Yugoslavia and USSR as well.

[–] Tenbot@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

I can't believe this map includes Castile, but does not make any mention of Al-Andalus. That's one of the most interesting epochs of Iberian history!

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Isn't showing up in full, just as a thumbnail for some reason.

image link

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Someone forgot the soviet union was a country

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

TBF if you're going to include all the countries that no longer exist on this map, it'd be unreadable.

Off the top of my head (and in no particular order): all the small states in the Holy Roman Empire, the Holy Roman Empire, the Roman Empire, the Western Roman Empire, Dacia, Poland-Lithuania, Scotland, England, the Kingdom of Ireland, Wales, Burgundy, Al-Andalus, Czechoslovakia, the DDR, Yugoslavia, Byzantium, the Ottoman Empire, Austro-Hungaria, the Irish Kingdoms, etc.

[–] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Put it in H!

[–] SrTobi@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago

Always fascinating that one of the longest existing countries was venice (and a republic at that, I think it's the longest existing republic) ... Over a thousand years! That's longer than the Roman empire (stfu no one thinks that the eastern Roman empire is the Roman empire :D) . And certainly longer that the 1000 year Reich

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Fascinating I never knew Venice included that part of Greece.

[–] root_beer@midwest.social 1 points 11 months ago

Prussia existed as a duchy before 1701 and was still a sovereign state until 1934, and wasn’t officially abolished until after World War II.

Need to be more specific about this.