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Linus' thread: (CW: bigotry and racism in the comments) https://social.kernel.org/notice/AWSXomDbvdxKgOxVAm (you need to scroll down, i can't seem to link to the comment in the screenshot)

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[–] eighty@lemmy.one 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I can relate to the "how the fuck is being a concerned human being extreme/poltical?" energy in the post hard.

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Hate is mainstream politics now, sadly. So yes, not hating is political as well.

[–] paaviloinen@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

That's what "being political" means. Otherwise you'd be apathetic, cynical and not concerned about anything.

[–] flibbertigibbet@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Political? For everyone outside of America that's just common sense.

[–] LlamaSutra@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

In Canada it’s starting to become “political” since our morons are egged on by the morons down south.

[–] caribou@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Politics used to be something people engaged in. Now politics is the core to a lot of people's identities, which means disagreement or debate is perceived as a personal attack and people will embrace a tremendous amount of cognitive dissonance to avoid being wrong.

[–] xyon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Hello I'm a trans person from the UK here to tell you this is sadly not the case at all.

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[–] empireOfLove@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Linus gives exactly zero fucks about saying exactly what's on his mind. And it's almost always massively based. He's always been great about that, we don't deserve such a great mind.

[–] CrownCrafter@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Remember the time with the anti vaxxer, man was firing with all cylinders

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[–] Plasma@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

FOSS is an active political statement!

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Was just coming here to say that. The entire Ethos of Open Source is basically the people owning the digital means of production. So some people really not grasp that?

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[–] xenago@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Linus has always been political and principled, I mean he chose the GPL for a reason! Glad to see him state all of this outright though, it only makes me respect him more.

[–] bobslaede@feddit.dk 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don't see how his, very reasonable, views makes Linux itself (more?) political. What is the point of this post?

[–] Andreas@feddit.dk 1 points 1 year ago

Gloating? Complaining? I thought the FOSS community has matured past "creator's views = views of everyone who uses their creation", honestly. And isn't Linus supporting the Democratic party already well known?

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[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Couldn't agree more.

[–] vanderbilt@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Linus delivering the well-deserved beatdown as always.

[–] Puls3@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

One great thing about about software is you don't have to agree with or care about what the creators thoughts and beliefs are, software is at the end of the day just software.

Doesn't get any less political than that.

[–] JasBC@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

One great thing about about software is you don't have to agree with or care about what the creators thoughts and beliefs are, software is at the end of the day just software.

It really isn't though - no-one dared touch ReiserFS after the creator became a wife-murderer even though it, supposedly at the time, it was quite the piece of advanced code.

[–] Puls3@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Was referring more to people trying to politicize software and push them into political movements they're unrelated to. Open software is at is core free and as such anyone with any political leaning could use it or contribute to it and no one would know, and no one should care.

[–] paaviloinen@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Now, what one considers free is political. You cannot decouple reality from politics, and the free software movement is just one very specific example how political this really is. It's also these communities that generate politival movements that you may see as unrelated to the pieces of software in question.

[–] ravermeister@lemmy.rimkus.it 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I create software by myself and disagree. First it's very political where and for whom I choose to develop software. Second, software is always made for a purpose and the purpose can be indeed (and is) very often linked to political or social cause. E.g. a software which only purpose is to harm people, say for controlling mass destruction weapons is in my point of view a very political software

[–] Puls3@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

software is always made for a purpose and the purpose can be indeed (and is) very often linked to political or social cause

Its not though, typically software exists to serve a basic function at its core, and it could be used or contributed to by anyone for any number of things.

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[–] SolNine@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Incredibly sensible take on all accounts in my opinion! I share all of the same opinions, though I lack the platform to be listened too haha.

[–] UprisingVoltage@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago

Linus apitting facts

[–] NotSteve_@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

It makes me very happy to hear Linus say this

[–] DidacticDumbass@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

Linus is stellar example of "good is not nice."

He will rake you over the coals because he cares about quality and expects better from everyone.

[–] raccoon@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hard fisagree. Linux isn't political. Everyone has an opinion, it's obvious Linus would too. But I am pretty happy that his opinion is one I personally agree with. Linux can be uaed by anyone though, and nothing stops far right activists (terrorists) from making a distro, which would still be Linux. There's a heavily religious distro too, but that doesn't make Linux as a whole religious.

[–] raresbears@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does that really make it totally apolitical though?. Like obviously it's not inherently attached to a wide reaching political ideology, but it still is political in the same way that any free software is kind of political.

[–] raccoon@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Personally I disagree but that's ok, we can't all see it the same way :)

[–] paaviloinen@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Personal is political.

[–] FiskFisk33@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

All sensible points, nothing extreme, except maybe the Linus trademark super blunt delivery

[–] matir@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I've never been made happier by one of his rants.

[–] Jaximus@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Hahahahahaha this is great

[–] k_o_t@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

comrade linus 🫡🫡

but also he’s finnish, which is communist, so he’s obviously a communist smh 🤷‍♀️

[–] _calm_bomb_@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know if you joke or not, but thinking finnish = communist is too far away from any truth. I lived and still live in an ex-communist country and let me tell you: nothing Linus says or does is communist in any way. Socialist? Maybe! But that's a different discussion.

[–] k_o_t@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

it’s a joke 😉

[–] subca@opensocial.at 1 points 1 year ago

@juergen @k_o_t A paranoic fascist here.

[–] raubarno@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
  1. ~~He's not Finnish, he's a Swede from Finland. Please attribute the nationality correctly.~~
  2. He's not defending communists. He just points out that 'woke' is a word used in a spiritual context, which doesn't make sense with communism. The header of this thread is a clickbait. Read the article again.

EDIT: He's actually a Swedish-speaking Finnish guy, mea culpa.

[–] eoli3n@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

social.kernel.org : one should migrate to lemmy :°

[–] Viktorian@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Linus is just such a treat. Love the guy.

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