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[–] Mawks@lemmy.world 309 points 1 year ago (6 children)

When asked in an interview how drone operators would know if the people being blown to smithereens were actually carrying drugs, he replied: “Same way a police officer would know … Same way somebody operating in Iraq would know. You know, these people in Iraq at the time, they all looked the same. You didn’t know who had a bomb strapped to them. So those guys have to make judgments.”

Holy F, as a mexican that crosses the border often for vacations... this is extreme and scary

[–] Lemmylefty@lemmy.world 186 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] kaitco@lemmy.world 75 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean, we joke, but this is pretty what he’s proposing.

This dude is pushing Putin-level shades of crazy.

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[–] lettruthout@lemmy.world 77 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, that sounds like the old "Kill them all and let God sort them out" approach.

[–] alnilam@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Funnily enough, if you suggest to do the same to people who advocate this approach to let God decide if the approach is good, they're a lot less enthusiastic

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[–] rephlekt2718@kbin.social 51 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Absolutely batshit rhetoric, this guy better lose hard………..

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[–] BReel@lemmy.one 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As a white person from Wisconsin who never crosses the boarder… this is extreme and scary.

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[–] jscummy@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 year ago

Picking two examples where the operator is often wrong, and very publicly so

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[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 196 points 1 year ago (6 children)

How about a new rule that if you vote for a war, you are automatically enlisted. And if you're ineligible to enlist you must either abstain or vote no.

[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 73 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

Congress members get as many votes for war as they have draft-age family members. For each vote they cast, they must enlist 1 family member. Starting with their own children.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some of em don't care about their kids. They can go fight, themselves.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 year ago

Some of em don't care about their kids.

As evidenced by their complete lack of concern regarding climate change.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 36 points 1 year ago

Nah just ship the congressmen/women off with the infantry. Then they can see exactly what they're voting for.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Given the low regard for their children and grandchildren they show when it comes to climate change, I doubt that would be an adequate deterrent.

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[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Smedley Butler solved this issue back in the 1920's, change the vote from Congress to eligible draftees to solve us going to war for stupid reasons.

Then during times of war, lock down every individual's income and ability to earn money to that of the soldier. Keeping war profiteering from stretching wars on indefinitely.

It's radical, but would probably keep us from just "being at war" eternally. A reality we have had to live in since at least 9/11.

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[–] afa@sh.itjust.works 112 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Slightly misleading, he says that they should shoot at mexican cartels (which are now federally recognised as terrorist organisations) who are using planes and boats to smuggle drugs.

He’s still a price of shit who wants to eliminate rights though, but it’s always important to get the facts right.

[–] lingh0e@lemmy.film 36 points 1 year ago

He is saying that he would use American military equipment and possibly send troops to kill people who look like drug smugglers on Mexican soil, which is an act of war.

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[–] popemichael@lemmy.sdf.org 93 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This is literal insanity.

Are they going to put Mexican Americans in internment camps next?

[–] gabe 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. That is 100% the end point of this.

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[–] Tigbitties@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago

Probably the plan.

[–] wintrparkgrl@beehaw.org 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Next? They've already done it with ICE detention centers

[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not to mention deported American citizens fairly frequently, since they assume any brown person who doesn't have their license on them at the moment is illegally in the country.

https://immigrationimpact.com/2021/07/30/ice-deport-us-citizens/

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[–] DTFpanda@lemmy.world 91 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It continues to amaze me how dumb half of America is.

[–] ConditionOverload@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Truly don't think it's half. It's just the way our elections and voting works. Every the stupid minority has a loud voice when we weigh votes instead of simply going for popular votes overall.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

you can count all the people who don't vote in the stupid category, so actually more than half.

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[–] Lawliss@midwest.social 69 points 1 year ago (6 children)

This cunt talks about Iraq like he did something there. He was a fucking lawyer 😂.

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 51 points 1 year ago

Posing as a human rights lawyer and illegally aiding in the torture of POWs at Guantanamo is the best way of forming a valid opinion on Iraq!

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[–] scytale@lemm.ee 60 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Dude is trying so hard to appeal to Trump's base, but it isn't working.

[–] fear@kbin.social 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Trump is a full blown cult of personality at this point, no one else will do. Maybe that's a good thing since he doesn't seem to have much time left.

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[–] style99@kbin.social 58 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Before anyone calls this hyperbole:

Ron DeSantis recently suggested that he would be open to ordering drone strikes on Mexican drug cartels and migrants, whom he accused of carrying drugs over the border. “We’re authorizing deadly force. They try to break into our country? They will end up stone-cold dead,” he said, and he’s not alone. Trump, Reps. Dan Crenshaw (R-TX) and Mike Walsh (R-FL), Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR), and Trump’s former deputy secretary of homeland security Ken Cuccinelli have all proposed various military actions in Mexico, up to and including sending in ground troops.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He gets off on cruelty. I guess his time inflicting suffering at Guantanamo wasn't enough, though.

[–] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would anyone ever want the commanding officer of a torture prison to run their country?! What do they think he's going to do?? It drives me crazy that anyone would want this, let alone even be okay with it.

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[–] appel@whiskers.bim.boats 55 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Psychopathic, how can a politician like this have any popular support

[–] donuts@kbin.social 36 points 1 year ago

It's DeSantis, so he basically doesn't.

[–] pingveno@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago

Same as any strongman leader. Talking tough reliably gets votes from a certain type of voter, even if what is proposed is utterly insane.

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[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The two biggest things we could do to curb the cartels in Mexico there is absolutely no political appetite for.

First we need a real federal gun registry database to start drying up the influx of weapons. Almost every gun in Mexico came from the US, almost half of the trace requests come up blank because these forms are all filed on paper in a warehouse that they aren't even allowed to index properly. The most nauseating thing is the gun Industry is in on it... don't believe me? Look up (38 Super El Presidente model).

Second we need to legalize drugs. You can make it so it needs to be bought through a doctor and or psychiatrist, but make all that shit pennies on the dollar. Weed revenue might have dried up, but a significant portion of the rest of their revenue comes from harder drugs.

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[–] masquenox@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 year ago

The US has been waging unprovoked war on Latin America since before WW1.

The only thing new about this is that this irredeemable piece of garbage is stating the quiet part out loud.

[–] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 37 points 1 year ago

This guy is just trying to out-asshole the orange king of assholes. It's so weird to see people trying to gain popularity by trying to prove how horrible they are.

[–] silvercove@lemdro.id 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nothing is more American than invading other countries and murdering their people.

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[–] init@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Haven't we learned our lesson about unprovoked wars after watching East Europe for the past year and a half??

@emizeko - not sure if you're a Russian troll or a poor American doing the real fascists' work for them--but I'm sorry for you my friend and hope the best for you. If you missed it in my other comments, I'm currently serving in the US military and am very confident that Western media at large is on the money, and that a novice OSINTer could refute the fanfic you posted. Best wishes.

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[–] Colorcodedresistor@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

As an NPA living in floriduh, ill tell you what moment in this timeline meatball ron lost the race. He went after disney...dumb rednecks hate blacks but, fucking with disney?! hell nah..if Ron goes after Chick Fil A? they'll likely mob lynch him on the spot.

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[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Is this guy the best that the Republican party has to offer?

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[–] o_0@slrpnk.net 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this is really the natural end point of their racist rhetoric

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would think the natural end point is gas chambers. This is more like the mid point.

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[–] p1mrx@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Mexican government has also responded to these proposals with scalding outrage. As Zach Beauchamp points out at Vox, President Andrés Manuel López Obrador said at a press conference that “We won’t allow it. And not only are we not going to allow it, we’re denouncing it.” Even a single drone attack would seem highly likely to end up in a direct confrontation with the Mexican military.

That's the important part of the article. It may be worth discussing whether to use the US military against drug cartels, but doing it without the full consent of the Mexican government would be batshit crazy.

[–] arcrust@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd still call bullshit. Done attacks will be useless. People desire drugs. They'll find a way.

The problem is supply and demand. If people want to use drugs, they're going to either way. We need to make the drugs ourselves and create harm reduction centers. Attack the problem at home.

For real, if I was buying FDA regulated MDMA at Walgreens, there would be a virtually 0 percent chance of me accidentally getting addicted to fentanyl.

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