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[–] milliams@lemmy.world 47 points 11 months ago

Using grey as the mid colour for this seems strange. It looks like missing data.

[–] Pohl@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (3 children)

You could overlay this map onto the enthusiasm for permanent DST and see a pretty good pattern. Those of us on the western edge of a time zone have a lot to lose in that scenario(9AM sunrises) where folks on the eastern edges would be worse off in a permanent ST plan (3pm sunsets).

Pretty much the real reason for the time change imo. If you pick a permanent time, there are winners and losers. So… we keep doing this dumb shit.

[–] Fermion@feddit.nl 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Everyone should just switch to zulu time, and each area can set their normal operation hours. Companies don't really follow 8-5 strictly anyway.

[–] ChlorineAddict@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

When did 9-5 become 8-5? I’ve seen it written multiple times recently.

[–] OR3X@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

When was it ever 9-5? My entire adult life normal working hours has always been 8-5 with a 1 hour lunch.

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Permanent UTC with no timezones is where it's at.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I wake up in darkness and I get off work in darkness, and I'm in the lower 48. I hate standard time. :P

[–] Pohl@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Time change don’t alter the angle of the earth. You don’t have enough hours of sunlight to get light at both ends of your day. It’s not standard time, it’s your latitude.

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

is there one for europe as well?

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

The "permanent ST" lobby unfortunately had that map burned due to being pro-DST propaganda.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

"Before 3pm" sounds horrific.

[–] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

I live in the Arctic and polar night is the most beautiful time of year. The sun almost comes up and paints the clouds red, while the sky to the north is stained purple. Then at night you frequently get the aurora and even if you don't you get a beautiful crisp starry night surrounded by snowy mountains.

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Seasons though.

People perpetually surprised by how far north they live will perpetually surprised me.

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I imagine those regions are effectively in 24 hours of darkness at that point

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago

You'd be surprised what some sunlight will do vs none at all. But the light that does come is very low on the horizon making it feel like sunrise/sunset and then it's gone again.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

I can't tell you about 24h of darkness, but I would love to experience a few weeks of 24h daylight! But only as a tourist. LOL

[–] teft@startrek.website 6 points 11 months ago

Here in Colombia the day lengths only vary by 1/2 hour throughout the year. None of that seasonal affective disorder down here.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Are those "rays" physical or caused by timezones?

[–] apex32@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The timezones are the thick grey lines on the map, and you can see they are causing breaks in the "rays".

I'm not sure what's causing the rays.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 months ago

Going south makes the earliest sunset happen later (because every sunset happens at the same time at the equator) and going west within a timezone makes it happen later too (since the sunset moves from east to west). Put those together and you get the diagonals.

[–] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

They're caused by how the data is split on the half hour. +-1min changes color drastically.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

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