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[–] Haagel@lemmings.world 67 points 11 months ago (6 children)

There's more slavery now than at any time in human history, according to this UN task force.

It makes you wonder, of course, that if our capitalism depends on slave markets... is it really capitalism?

Someone please help me to understand...

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago (30 children)

Yes. Capitalism is private ownership over the means of production. Slavery serves capitalism very well, even if it didn't invent slavery.

[–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 23 points 11 months ago (2 children)

One could argue that if the workers themselves are the means of production, slavery is extra capitalist.

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[–] Haagel@lemmings.world 12 points 11 months ago

let's call it neo-slavery 💫

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If a CEO finds out that he can get slaves to do the work for free instead of spending money on it they have an obligation to the shareholders to do what makes the company the most money.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The only reason corporations aren't doing chattel slavery in the U.S. right now is that they're legally barred from it.

[–] Haagel@lemmings.world 6 points 11 months ago

I just heard an NPR story about US Steel Corp using chattel slavery less than a hundred years ago. They worked people to death and buried them in unmarked graves.

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[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 11 months ago

The private economy is the main source of the rise, while state-enforced labour counts for one in seven cases of modern slavery, the report adds.

I wonder if mandatory military service counts for "state-enforced labor"

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What we have isn’t capitalism, capitalism only works until you add people

[–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

True capitalism has never been tried!

[–] DragonTypeWyvern 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ancaps actually believe this

Let's see how it works for Argentina.

[–] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

"Anarcho-Capitalism" sounds like a 4chan attempt at political theory.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How are there high income people in slavery, that doesn't make sense to me

[–] Haagel@lemmings.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The UN sponsored report uses a pretty liberal definition of slavery to include things like wage theft (which forces workers to stay at a job until they're fully compensated), sex trafficking, and domestic servitude where the servant's documents are confiscated so that they can't flee.

However, there's still a hell of a lot whips and chains slavery in Africa and South East Asia. Those slaves serve the excavation and manufacturing industries.

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[–] Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Everybody:

Isn't using children for slave labor immoral?

Hershey, Nestle, Mars, selling chocolate to Americans:

But is it against the law, though?

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

If you buy anything grown almost anywhere, it is with slave labor or near-slave labor. So many of the crops grown in the US use child labor and labor for very very low wages, low enough that it may as well be slavery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41vETgarh_8&t=1

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 17 points 11 months ago

Fucking love key and peele

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

I like this format.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

look at my lips : not illegal

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[–] Mango@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

I like that Lemmy is a small enough community that I know exactly which post and which comments in that post this is about. 🤣

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