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Anyone who thinks a sitting president won't be the party nominee in the next election (barring a case like LBJ who voluntarily chose not to run) is deluding themselves.
The only thing that could stop Biden at this point is some kind of medical intervention.
The state of the country is so bad that the only thing that bring it back is literally two accidental medical interventions. Our political system needs a major overhaul
The state of the country is so bad that...
Fundamentally disagree. If Trump and Biden both died on the same day before the election, it would not change a thing, other than make the next election even more contentious. Project 2025 doesn't go away just because Trump would be gone in that scenario.
Our political system needs a major overhaul
Agreed. It's going to take decades of concerted efforts, because the fascists aren't simply going to give up after a few losses.
ATM that would leave a Christian Nationalist as the president. What a wonderful system we have...
Pretty sure referencing Trump and Biden having issues not Biden and Harris.
Gotta get the money out and require someone to be who they say they are to share content on the Internet.
Biden should have he sense to stop Biden. And there should be an upper age limit placed on the role.
Upper age limit would require an amendment.
No objection to amendment for this issue.
My heart is with you but do you remember the last primarys? 2016 they were not. I liked some of those folks, some even more than Biden, but there was no "Obama 2.0".
I strongly dislike Joe for 1132 different reasons, but can you really imagine spooling up anyone else at this point?
I hate it. And I hope the dem party fractures into factions and the best can get through. Just after the GOP finishes it's implosion because it's terrifying.
Edit: I also had serious misgivings with Obama. But my point is of the dem primary cantidates leading up 2020 the best you can say is they were as memorable as Howard Dean.
When was the last time a incumbent president has been defeated by a primary challenger?
In short, never. At least not in the era of modern primaries where people have a chance to vote on who will be the candidate, rather than just party leaders selecting the candidate, which began in the 1970s.
If you go back further in time, there's been a few incidents where party leaders denied their endorsement to an election incumbent for various reasons.
https://time.com/5682760/incumbent-presidents-primary-challenges/
Dean who?
From Gilmore Girls, I think.
Democrats: Trump winning the 2024 election is an eminent threat to our democracy
-- 2024 DNC Primaries --
Also Democrats : Move on there is nothing to see here
Well it is consistent with what the Dems did to Bernie during the 2016 and 2020 election cycles.
Primaries should not be canceled.
Primaries exist solely to benefit the parties.
Remember that. The states spend a lot of resources to hold primaries, but at the end of the day the purpose is to help each party have their best shot of winning the general election. If the state Democrats think this is their best option, so be it.
I mean, it's not like Democrats have convincingly pretended that the results of the primaries aren't preordained since 2016. They're just dropping the act.
Wait, it still surprises people that the democrats rig their primary?
The incumbent is always the party candidate regardless of party.
That's not always true, there has been one example where the incumbent lost their primary, Franklin Pierce.
He was the 14th president, winning the 1852 election. His handling of the political climate before the civil war didn't get him enough support for the 1856 election, ultimately losing the primary bid to James Buchanan.
That's not even considering the multiple times when someone took over for deceased presidents, then lost their own reelection primaries afterwards.
So there is precedent for not using the incumbent. It's just usually logical to pick the person that's already won before.
Fair. Still, it is a rare exception to the rule.