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[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 85 points 9 months ago (1 children)

how does ad-free = privacy when they're still scraping all your data?

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] kambusha@feddit.ch 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

D- Demonstrate value

E- Engage virtually

N- Nurture dependence

N- Neglect privacy

I- Inspire hope

S- Shittification

[–] CoolMatt@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] thirteene@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Dennis is a specifically assaultive character from the fantastic TV series It's always sunny in Philadelphia; that invented a system of picking up women using an acrostic of his name.

https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F070ac53e-a12d-4b3a-8a69-281592cb45e8_498x351.gif

The TV series is crass but hilarious. Highly recommend watching

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 72 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Ad-free facebook has nothing to do with privacy. Nowhere they say they would not collect your data, they will just not show you ads.

It’s extremely annoying how media seems to confuse the two. Many of us would be happy to pay money for real guaranteed privacy, but this is not the option for that.

[–] Iwasondigg@lemmy.one 36 points 9 months ago

Or you could just not use Facebook.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago

That CJEU ruling specifically said that "users must have the freedom to individually refuse consent [...] "if necessary for a reasonable fee."

Hahaha... That's a good one.

Imagine one of the biggest, fattest, richest companies in the world can't afford to abide by the law - except by charging exxagerated fees.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 months ago

Nah, moving to the mountains during the middle ages was pretty cheap.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

Oh, you’re still being tracked.

[–] ArghZombies@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Facebook are an advertising platform. They only offer a paid tier because they now legally have to. They don't really want you to take the paid tier, they want you to explicitly opt in to the ad-supported 'free' one. - because by specifically agreeing to "I want the free Facebook with ads' option it means you're actively choosing to be served ads, which is what all the recent lawsuits have been about - users giving explicit consent to be targeted for advertising.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago

While the assumption is not correct as they still harvest your data, the headline is true. Jeff Bezos can have no e-mail, no phone number, because if you need him, you'd find a way through his various representatives if not filtered out. If your boss wants to contact you, you are pretty much mandated to have channels for their requests, being logged into WhatsApp for their workchat, and being harassed if you miss something posted here.

[–] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Is Facebook really still relevant? I know people use Instagram but Facebook?

Btw. I hate that I have to conesnt first (or Pay) so I can go to the Settings to delete my Account.

[–] RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 months ago

Facebooks monthly active users are pretty stable/have grown in the last years

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 3 points 9 months ago

Very much so. Your bubble isn't representative of the internet.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why do people do their absolute hardest to keep these shitty services alive? Facebook and Insta aren't necessary to survive. If they are too expensive to use and too ad-riddled, people will leave them. Stop giving them a reason to stay. "Reasonable price" is a reason.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Because people don't care and they want to upload the picture of their baby. They don't care that they see ads, they most likely don't know they are being tracked.

[–] Gazumi@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

If they set the pricing for the use of their services, this would naturally correlate with the price they pay all those who have their data mined without consent or opt out. Let's hope that this is a feature of every litigation or other challenge to Meta