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[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 59 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I remember this study done:

"Today's rich families in Florence, Italy, were rich 700 years ago"
https://www.vox.com/2016/5/18/11691818/barone-mocetti-florence

[–] hh93@lemm.ee 21 points 2 years ago

The only German in the top 10 of the richest Germans that didn't inherit that spot is the founder of Biontec - and while he did a great job there it's just sheer luck that the pandemic hit when it did

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

B…but muh bootstraps???

[–] aeronmelon@lemm.ee 57 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Water is wet.

The sky is blue.

Yachts are an indefensible source of carbon emissions.

[–] hikikoma@ani.social 3 points 2 years ago
[–] SpezCanLigmaBalls@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Incoming Republicans who live in a trailer park to get upset at you over talking shit about something only the rich own

[–] isles@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you stacked all the billionaires in the world, head to toe, starting at the bottom of the Mariana Trench... it'd be a start.

[–] ohitsbreadley@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago

Good thing Ocean's Gate already started that process for us.

[–] filoria@lemmy.ml 35 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The problem is that wealth correlates directly with power in the West. You'll never see a Western billionaire get Jack Ma'd, and that's the problem: Western billionaires have less accountability and more rights than the average citizen.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Jack Ma didn't get knocked down because he's rich.

It was because he pissed off the CPC.

Not that I want to defend any mega-rich person, but he seemed to be using the influence that his wealth allowed him to speak out against actual oppressors.

[–] OtakuAltair@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

There are no good billionaires. Only people who bypass regulations and cause immense suffering can get there. Idk why y'all are so mad about China getting rid of one lol

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago

The world ain't binary.

Even among shitty billionaires there is a range of more and less bad.

[–] OtakuAltair@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

Yeah, democracy my ass lol

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

You're saying that like it's a unique problem to the West. Do you think Asian billionaires don't have extra rights and latitude?

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The rich typically hate welfare...unless that welfare is unearned wealth passed down to children.

[–] captain_oni@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Hey!! My dad worked very hard to inherit his wealth from his father, so I should benefit from that too! - billionaires

[–] regdog@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That statement is true for **every ** generation of billionaires, not just the current one.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Musk, Gates, Bezos, and Zuckerberg all had multi millionaire parents that gave them "small loans" that catapulted them to billionaires. Now their fortunes, made in our lifetime by the labor of others, will be locked up for the next 400 years while people starve or die of preventable and treatable diseases.

Edit: Removed a raping skunk.

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Will be locked up for the next 400 years while people starve or die of preventable and treatable diseases.

It really doesn't have to be. The French figured this out a long time ago.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 10 points 2 years ago

The French also existed within the same reality that they could agree on.

The right and left in America might as well be living in alternative realities... On the right they'll defend this to the death, they'll fight for Bezos as he crushes their local economies and they'll lick musks boots as long as he keeps "sticking it to the libs."

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Unfortunately they also got way too happy with guillotines and devolved into anarchy. Robespierre had his reign of terror, and then he had his own head chopped off.

I'm not saying we don't redistribute their wealth. Let's just be careful to not do it in a way that leads to repeated redistribution because violence is normalized.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As broken and deplorable as the people on that list are, you're doing work for trump here by casually equating him with that lot. He's not an actual billionaire. It's as if you said, "look at the most eligible bachelors of all time... Marc Antony, Rudolph Valentino, Brad Pitt and Pepe Le'pew"

One of them was adjacent to females to be sure, but he was a cartoon skunk rapist. Don't help carry water for a cartoon skunk rapist.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fair point. I like how you phrased it.

[–] regdog@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I like how you edit out the "raping skunk" from your comment - and then somebody else just posts it without consequence XD

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

It used to be true, and it still is.

[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Why is this a surprise, exactly?

[–] hh93@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago

It still needs to be repeated over and over since people are absolutely opposing a higher inheritance tax thinking it would influence them inheriting their grandma's house because that's how those populists are usually spinning it...

[–] bratosch@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Ikr? Everyone today grinding for that "generational wealth" and I honestly don't see why. Do people really want more spoiled brats in the world?

[–] Slotos@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago

You seem to be mistaking a chance to give your family a place to live with whatever the fuck a billion is supposed to offer them.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"work". Well, i guess it's networking.

[–] negativenull@startrek.website 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Imagine working so hard, you end up getting birthed by a billionaire! Keep pulling those bootstraps peasants!

[–] mycatiskai@lemmy.one 5 points 2 years ago

Please sign up for thislifelong debt subscription service for a threadbare set of bootstraps that have a limited lifetime warranty and will break due to non covered reasons.

[–] arandomthought@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is it different for the current generation?