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[–] Joy2082@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

They really should remove the WC from Spain.

[–] 14-05-2005@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Always hilarious seeing this type comments then looking at the flair, de que zona de espanha és? Mumbai ou Nova Iorque?

[–] lazy_bastard_001@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

ya know chatgpt, deepL and google translate exist right? if someone wanted to pretend to be from somewhere on the internet it's damn easy nowadays...

[–] Xehanz@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Imagine they remove Spain from the WC bid but they allow Qatar and Saudi Arabia. Lmao. Peak FIFA.

[–] timdeking@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

What the actual fuck

[–] Doge_peer@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

What? That’s just weird…

[–] criloz@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Someone should explain him that every human alive have ancestors that were slaves

[–] WorthPlease@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Yeah but, they had the same skin color as me. So it was different.

[–] Xehanz@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (6 children)

I've seen worse. Our president made a slight mistake and misquoted a book by saying "Mexicans came from Indians, Brazilians came from the jungle, but we Argentines came from the ships, and the ships came from Europe. So of course I love Spain"

[–] bafetimbi193@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Just for clarification this wasn’t Milei

[–] Yvael@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

We have had worse presidents

[–] 20cmdepersonalidade@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

The quote is made even worse by the fact that is straight-up wrong too, given that Argentina has as much non-European ancestry as Brazil in terms of genetics. Lots of Argentinians came from the natives too.

[–] crashcap@alien.top 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Pretty bad president for sure, but didnt you guys have some awful presidents in the late 60s / early 70s?

:(

[–] Torimas@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

but didnt you guys have some awful presidents

Yes. For the last 100 years or so.

[–] PowerOfTheShihTzu@alien.top 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Man Im watching somewhat the under17 world cup currently at play for Etcheverry and let me tell y'all the roster could very well be Mexicans , ecuadorians or whatevs;it is not as if the players look Baltic haha

[–] 20cmdepersonalidade@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Argentina is just as non-European as Brazil is, they just have native ancestry instead of African and are a little farther away from the ecuator.

[–] Moug-10@alien.top 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I start to see why many people say Argentinians are racist. At first, I thought it was like any other countries but this is a bigger level.

[–] Deluxefish@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Just take a look at the thread when the brazilian police attacked argentinian fans in the stadium a few days ago.

Obviously a horrible occurence, but the amount of Argentines that denied any kind of racism problem/racist history in their country was outrageous, and anyone opposing their lies was downvoted to hell

[–] Bigwood69@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

They basically see themselves as Europeans rather than South Americans, as I understand it.

[–] LC1903@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Obviously is wasn’t meant in a racist way imo, it’s because he comes from Quilombo, it’s just really stupid, and it’s really weird they decided to focus on that

[–] SweetJoones@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Dude are you black? if not, why the fuck do you think your entitled to decide what racism towards black people, really should mean? Describing someone as a slave descendant in this context, because his family 100years(!!) ago was a slaves is absoloutly fucked.

[–] black_fire@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

lil typo is all

[–] churrosricos@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I feel like that's not even racism? Just confusing? Like what compelled you to say this. wtf?

[–] pecheux@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

it's both tbh
there is literally no reason to highlight it on the headline. it's just fucking weird, man

[–] gerbileleventh@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

They could very well also use “King Filipe, descendent of inbreed royals” but you know they won’t and you know why.

[–] DrewTheZamboni@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

This title must've gone through so many hands before being published and still got published without anyone thinking the title was the slightest bit racist.

[–] AncientSkys@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

The Romans enslaved them, Visigoths enslaved them and the Moors also enslaved them. Not sure why they are pretending their ancestors weren't enslaved.

[–] bobby_zamora@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

It's referencing his Quilombola roots which is a specific group of people in Brazil that descend from escaped slaves.

[–] Elver-Gotas@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago
[–] Yaysuzu@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It is a fucking weird article, but why racist? I guess we need to wait for Vini Jr opinion on the matter.

[–] ClayboiPartiSux@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How about NOT referring to him as that and seeing him as a footballer instead?

[–] Yaysuzu@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah of course, but again, why racist?

[–] ClayboiPartiSux@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

idk dude how about you go upto a dark-skinned person and ask them if they are a 'descendant of slavery' and lets see how the situation goes

[–] taterlol@alien.top 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

i think it’s common knowledge that a lot of black people in the americas were descended from slaves, especially in the states, but they meant this pejoratively which is hateful.

[–] rytlejon@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Why do you think they meant it pejoratively? I'm reading it as a sort of "he came from nothing and now he's doing great". The kind of story you usually get of Brazilian footballers coming from the favelas.

[–] Aleblanco1987@alien.top 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't see it as racist. It's his personal history.

It could have been worded better.

[–] VetusMortis_Advertus@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Aleblanco1987@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Is it a lie that his ancestors were slaves?

[–] Usual-Fennel-3125@alien.top 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] WorthPlease@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I have a good friend who is black, his family is 100% descendant of American slaves, as much as you can be.

As a native American/white dude. I would never, never refer to him a descendant of slaves.

[–] Usual-Fennel-3125@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Of course not. It’s really weird to do.