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In anticipation of Lemmy's upcoming 0.19 release, and to work out any final issues, we're going to deploy a test release on lemmy.ml within the next few days.

We're doing this testing on lemmy.ml only, so that we can encounter any issues before the release, and to make sure the upgrade process is smooth for other production servers.

Some of the following will happen during the process:

  • Apps will likely break (only for lemmy.ml)
  • Lemmy.ml may experience some downtime for the upgrade to complete (ideally no more than an hour).
  • If anything goes wrong, we may have to restore from a database backup, meaning content made in between backups may be lost.

If all goes well, we'll have an official announcement for the release after this testing period.

I apologize for the difficulties this might cause. At most this will be a week of hair-pulling, but its vital that we catch any issues before telling other servers to upgrade.

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[–] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml 50 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Proud to be on the official test server πŸ₯²

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 51 points 11 months ago (4 children)

haha, we appreciate the patience. We're not a massive company with teams of people, just a couple of FOSS programmers.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 13 points 11 months ago

This is why this instance is so well. Thank you for all the hard work in reliberating the web!

[–] yoz@aussie.zone 7 points 11 months ago

β™₯️

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[–] FrankLaskey@lemmy.ml 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I there a changelog available?

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 74 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There will be when we do the release. Its a big one.

[–] furycd001@lemmy.ml 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Cheers for all of the work you Devs have put in....

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 17 points 11 months ago
[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for your service o7

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Let's gooo!! Lemmy 0.19 ftw!

[–] VentraSqwal@links.dartboard.social 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm excited for the scaling sort.

[–] BlueEther@no.lastname.nz 7 points 11 months ago

that has been workinf well on my instance πŸ‘

[–] silas@programming.dev 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Cheering you on from over here at lemm.ee! Thanks for making this place better for everyone!

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 11 points 11 months ago
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[–] silas@programming.dev 12 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Ah crap I got another account there, I guess I’m cheering from both lol

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[–] aeharding@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is good to hear! Have you considered releasing more often with smaller sets of changes, for future releases? It seems like this will be quite the upgrade.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 37 points 11 months ago

Yep, we'd def prefer to do smaller releases, and we'll try to make them more frequent and smaller in the future. The main reason this one was so delayed, is because of the large number of breaking changes, esp. w/ respect to authentication.

[–] yoz@aussie.zone 15 points 11 months ago (6 children)

can anyone tldr all big features coming in the new release?

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[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Thank you so much for your work on this instance.

How best to donate to help support?

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 15 points 11 months ago

Thanks! Here's our donation page: https://join-lemmy.org/donate . Liberapay is preferred if possible.

[–] Plasma@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Can somebody explain what this scaling sort thing is to me? I've heard it a lot, but I don't know exactly what it does.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 25 points 11 months ago

It's like hot sort, but gives a boost to inactive communities.

[–] CharlesMangione@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

It's like the other sort options, except it prioritizes communities with fewer subs, so that you'll see content from smaller communities more often.

[–] furycd001@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago (7 children)

The update has broken a bunch of things for me..
On my desktop using firefox, I cannot get images to display & everything is slow to load. On my android phone, boost was showing me a ton of stuff that I do not follow & wasn't showing me any info about my profile (profile tab would not load or something). Boost eventually logged me out & I have been unable to log back in....

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago

Images were temporarily broken due to authentication problems, but thats fixed now. If you encounter problems in apps, please them to the developers so they can fix them.

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[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yoooo I see the export/import settings thingie.

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[–] nar@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I was just wondering: Instead of testing these potentially disruptive changes on the main website, why wouldn't you make some testing instances where people can try everything out, like voyager, enterprise, and ds9 were back in the day?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I don’t think this is a bad suggestion, but it’s worth noting that lemmy.ml is explicitly intended not to be the β€œmain” Lemmy, or even a major one: What is lemmy.ml?

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[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes I can finally make those shitty instances go bye-bye

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[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

Good luck!! If we don’t hear any exploding noises than I guess that means it is going ok?

[–] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago

❀️

[–] Sal@mander.xyz 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for your hard work!!

I appreciate that you going through this test period. I hope it all goes smoothly and that at least a few hairs remain on your heads by the end of this week. Good luck!

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[–] UnverifiedAPK@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I can sign in with a web browser, but this broke Jerboa for me

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[–] SlicingBot@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

How much longer will it be before I can finally log in and use boost or liftoff. Is there a timeline for a fix? Both have been broken since the update.

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[–] maximilian@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is there an update on the state of the update?

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Speedily trying to get things merged and more release candidates out... sry its taking longer than expected.

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[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 7 points 11 months ago

This is super exciting!

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

Honestly, I have some problems with this update (and some things I'm super happy about too of course), I hope my feedback is seen so the problems can be made aware:

  1. I'm not a fan of new comments having yellow, the contrast is poor at least on darkly-compact and it just looks weird and out of place. I'd suggest maybe making them a slightly lighter or darker shade of the existing color to make them stand out, not an entirely different color.
  2. It seems the main page/posts pagination uses pageCursor instead of page number now, whereas profiles still use page number. Using pageCursor is an SEO downgrade and usability downgrade, it's a weird decision IMO if that was intentional and not a bug.
  3. I think I might have run into a bug, Lemmy no longer seems to save my upvotes or something. When I upvote some posts on the main page/posts list, even if I wait a few seconds, or 10 seconds or even 30 seconds, when I refresh my upvotes are gone. ~~This one seems fixed now?~~ Nevermind, it's broken again, very weird.
  4. With "Top Day" sorting, there used to be multiple pages of posts, now sometimes I don't even get a full page of posts: https://i.imgur.com/4LiZzJG.png (it looks like it's showing posts from only one community, I have it set to subscribed communities but I'm literally subscribed to like 50 different communities) but other times I get one full page of posts plus multiple other posts which is how it always behaved before 0.19. Since it seems to be inconsistent, I'm thinking that's a bug.

I would probably suggest on holding off on releasing 0.19 for now, it does seem like a really large release so it might be better to make sure it's fully polished and ready to go.

I'm super glad upvoting comments doesn't discard the comment you're writing, that's a huge improvement. I also see import/export settings, that's super awesome, I absolutely love features like this!

Thank you for your hard work, Lemmy is such a cool platform.

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