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An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

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That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)


1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here


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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 61 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (37 children)

Is this a "the right can't meme" thing? Liberals are opposed to the current Russia-ukraine war and Israeli-palestine war and are currently supporting the newest civil rights movement.

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 64 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Nah I think it's just the same snake-in-the-grass right wing propaganda bullshit that infects every leftist space online to sow complacency and disempower us with apathy by trying to convince us that the comparative left-ish-leaning party is the same or worse than the right so as to maintain the hold on power the right has. It's bullshit anti-leftist wolf-in-sheep's-clothing rhetoric. Same as it always was.

Edit: typos.

[–] teft@startrek.website 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'm guessing they mean liberal in the classical sense and not liberal in the liberal/conservative meaning of the current US political parties.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago

They're talking about the current wars and the current civil rights movements, so that wouldn't make sense anyway.

"Whigs sure hate Instagram".

[–] crackajack@reddthat.com 10 points 11 months ago (29 children)

"Liberal" means differently to the left (socialists and far-left to be precise). In the classical sense, a "liberal" promotes individualism, free market and private property, which many on the far-left rejects.

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[–] WarmApplePieShrek@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 11 months ago (12 children)

What is opposing a war?

People call themselves war opponents when they oppose invading Vietnam, which is good.

People also call themselves war opponents when they oppose Ukraine defending itself, which is bad. They support Russia invading Ukraine. They support wars except the ones when the US is invading.

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[–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

You can see this all the time with Hollywood liberal values. All the gay stereotyping and jokes through the 90s then all of a sudden they're patting themselves on the back for being the arbiters of social progress.

[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 6 points 11 months ago

It reads a lot different if you're familiar with Gourevitch's writing, especially on the Rwandan genocide. "We Wish to Inform you that Tomorrow we Will be Killed with our Families." Read it if you haven't already.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago
[–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

"10 degrees to the left of center in good times, ten degrees to the right when it affects them personally"

I read new republic and nation

I've learned to take every view

You know, i've memorized lerner and golden

I feel like i'm almost a jew

But when it comes to times like korea

There's no one more red, white and blue

So love me, love me, love me, i'm a liberal

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

This is a joke, right?

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