Is it really like that?
I can't imagine a significant amount of people having a mac on a linux converence. It just doesn't make sense π΅
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Because 95% of those people work with Linux, but not in it. OS X is BSD-based but close enough to make developing or supporting Linux machines simple. My entire infrastructure, thousands of servers, are all Linux, but most of the time I'm working on my Windows PC, and only occasionally do I break out my Macbook or Linux laptop. Love Linux, can't stand Apple, and I'm meh about MS except for gaming, but Linux as a desktop/workstation OS is still years behind OS X and Windows in ease of use. That said, I do not nor would I ever run either of those in any production capacity, just Linux.
It's been my experience so far. Even linux user group meets had people with macs (prior Apple Silicon). Bigger, opensource conferences had an absolute majority of macs. Boggled my mind.
there are different levels of foss, I guess. the latest guy using a mac I saw was Matthew Hodgson (the matrix guy) and I really don't get the people using macs in a foss world
Like apple swapping out every BSD part that would require them to keep it FOSS
Weird take but I always had issues sharing screens for presentations on Linux. Every time I plugged it into a portable projector or screen that wasn't my own, there would always be 15 minutes of fumbling.
The crappy workaround has been to just use wherever computer is plugged in already and use a PDF, Google slides, or Mac.
what distro and what WM/DE?
Whatβs wrong with that? Linux on Mac is a great combo π (ok ok apple silicon apart)
I dunno, it felt like I was at Apple conferences. Doesn't fit my vibe at all.
I think Linux/FOSS is about software, not hardware. Ok there are grey areas (firmware).
Sure, apple is a mega corp that is not particularly ethical (see reparation score) but I am not convinced that, letβs say, Lenovo or dell are much better.
On the other hand Apple hardware is generally fairly solid, mainly intel chips (that are generally well supported in Linux), there is a relatively small set of products so itβs easy to check compatibility.
Yeah, it's subjective. For me, it's an ethical thing. I'm not Gnu-levels of opensource, but it also makes no sense to me to advocate for and promote opensource while giving your money to some of the biggest closed source vendors out there. IMO there are better options for hardware vendors that support opensource: system76, purism, tuxedocomputers, slimbook, pine64, starlabs, and so many more.
Opensource needs money and you show up to a conference flaunting your closed source stuff? Feels wrong.
I have a MacBook Pro, but I actively donate and contribute to open-source. These things aren't mutually exclusive.
Many of us use MacBooks because that's what our work machines are, and it is what we are familiar and most productive with. They're also pretty damn great machines and extremely stable.
That doesn't mean I don't have multiple servers at home running different flavors of Linux for Home Assistant, my 3D printer, and a myriad of other services which are all FOSS.
These things arenβt mutually exclusive.
Never said they were.
Many of us use MacBooks because thatβs what our work machines are
There's a distinct difference between not having the choice in your work equipment and personally choosing to give money to a corporation such as Apple. It doesn't make you evil to personally do the latter, it's just a pity to give so much money to a corporation known for aggressively keeping things to themselves.
I understand where you're coming from. I personally just prefer MacBooks given their longevity, and it is unfortunate there isn't anything else like them. I did the Linux on various machines for a while, but as someone else said it didn't feel any different because ultimately I was just giving money to Dell/Lenovo instead.
I'm loving what System76 and Framework are doing, and I've considered buying one of their machines multiple times just to support them. It's just too much to justify for my non-primary machine, but in 10 years when I need a new laptop I'll strongly consider them.
Agree 100%. But there are many Developery that are not tinkerers.
Haha fairly solid. Ask Louis Rossman about that :D