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[–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 76 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We're lucky to have valve. They actually managed to make a console without the downsides of a console.

My OLED deck has arrived today, can't wait to use it.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You mean their Linux PC with a built in controller?

[–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 27 points 2 years ago (3 children)

A linux PC would involve some amount of tinkering.

The steam deck is foolproof, a 6 year old can play games on it with no issues, so it's a console. The PC mode is just a nice extra.

[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

You’re both right. Hail Lord Gaben

[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 8 points 2 years ago

Linux can be configured to be idiot friendly y'know, and it doesn't make it suddenly not Linux. The SteamDeck has the capabilities of a full fledged Linux PC with the PC mode, it very much isn't just a console.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago

The Steam Deck definitely requires a certain amount of tinkering, depending on when you got it and what games you're trying to play!

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Hmm, my Mazda infotainment is Linux PC

[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

False. When bricks stop working they cannot be used as bricks.

[–] FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can it kill someone?

Xbox: only virtually

Brick: easily

[–] dabu@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It seems you've never thrown an Xbox One at someone

[–] FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yea but then the Xbox is broken. The brick? Good as ever, with a new red hue

[–] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 6 points 2 years ago

Brick wins again.

[–] clyne@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 2 years ago

Fun to play with? Xbox: no Brick: yes

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

72 cents a brick? You gotta get a new brick guy, my man

[–] general_kitten@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

well it might be a refractory brick

[–] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 2 points 2 years ago

Add "supports a hobby" to the list for both, then.

[–] EchoesInMay@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If a brick stops working, can it really be used as a brick?

[–] qwerty_bastard@feddit.uk -4 points 2 years ago

If an xbox stops working, can it really be used as an xbox?

[–] fraction@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

But my brick won't brick no more after it broke :(

[–] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

What you have now, it's two portable half-bricks. :)

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

So you're saying you bricked your brick?

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I had to put my xbox one on a smart plug so it doesn't have power when not in use.

Otherwise it turns itself on constantly. Every time I came home it was on, and sitting in the livingroom with it off, it would randomly turn on. It does this both with and without network access.

[–] ma11en@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

TVs off too. Xbox is connected via a stereo system that doesn't support CEC.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you mean that it spins up connected USB drives when "off", I've seen that as it tries to keep games updated in the background. But I've never had any fully turn on (power button lit up, on the main menu if you switch to the input) on their own. That's weird.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

No, I mean fully starting up as if I'd pressed the power on button.

Plays the three beep startup sound, power light comes on, I then turn on the tv and it's sitting in it's dashboard doing nothing waiting for input.

Manually press the power button and it shuts down, then starts again a random amount of time later. Sometimes only a few minutes, usually within an hour or two.

[–] prime_number_314159@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

This is a deeply unfair comparison. There are bricks of different (somewhat incompatible) sizes between regions, and sometimes in the same region. While a brick is not "region locked" per se, they are only really a suitable material when replacements of the same size and general color are easily available.

Secondly, if your brick stops working, it is no longer useful as a brick, and has to be used as fill material, or disposed of. Indeed, broken bricks are pretty common, sometimes appearing in large piles.

Thirdly, the games you can play with a brick provide many hours of enjoyment, which is a major selling point of bricks that you've left out of the discussion.

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 years ago

This post is 5 hours old and no-one has made a Father Jack reference yet?

[–] PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I still have all my xboxes and they all still work flawlessly. The OG, the base model xbone, and even the original white 360. I'm also not an achievement hunter at all but still have over 130k gamerscore, which just goes to show how much use each of these consoles got over the years. I had the 360 through college with four roommates! Hell up until they recently made Lucasarts' Gladius backwards compatible on my series x I was getting out the OG Box once a year just to play that masterpiece again.

[–] nobo@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

I used to mod XB1's. They're basically a computer inside. Had XBMC (the precursor to KODI) installed as my dashboard. My games were all copied to the 250GB hard disk I had put into it so they loaded and ran extremely efficiently. I had emulators for PS1 games and Nintendo.

At one point, I even paid a very talented chap for an Xbox board with double RAM and a 2x faster processor soldered onto it.

You had to get a tool from online to patch your executables to be able to handle the extra processing power, otherwise many of them would run at 2x speed because they were pegged to the clock speed.

Love those things. Lots of nostalgia.

[–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Xbox one was a terrible game console but it was a great media center, that's for sure. I loved the HDMI passthrough, and I loved being able to control all of my stuff through the Xbox from the cable box to all of the streaming options installed on the console. I liked it better than the Fire Stick I eventually picked up when the Xbox just decided it would no longer start up.

[–] uberkalden@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What made it terrible though?

[–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I didn't care for their first party games; I bought the console bundled with the MCC and Halo 5; Halo 5 was a huge disappointment, and MCC just ran better on my PC. I feel like 343 doesn't get the universe they inherited.

There was just nothing worth playing that was console exclusive that I couldn't get on my desktop. With Playstation, they had banging first party titles all the way through the back half of the PS3 through to now with the PS5, and they are trickling them onto PC.

[–] uberkalden@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ah, yeah that's all true. I thought you had issue with the console hardware itself, which seemed capable enough for that generation

[–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

Well, it did just eventually die on me. I had a power surge and that was that, it never started back up again. My 360 still works just fine though.

As far as power goes, it was perfectly capable on a hardware level, for sure. The games played just fine, it was just better for me as a set top box than a video game console as a PC gamer. I had bought an Xbox One X which was capable of 4k output, hoping I would have upgraded the TV. Now I have a FireStick 4k, and I hate it in comparison to the Xbox, it's such a piece of unmitigated garbage.

[–] xia@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 years ago

"Extra fee if used" should be conditionally true for bricks... it depends on how you use them.

Do pavers, CMUs, and other concrete blocks count?

[–] ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

The xbox one. Was it worth it. Hell yeah

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I remember they were really selling it as a media center in their pitches. It's interesting how they fucked that up. Streaming was still taking off, everyone was about to give voice activated personal assistants / spy devices to their relatives for Christmas.

If Microsoft had been smarter and sold it as a 'this has all the streaming apps on it', they probably could have had some Wii like success with cordcutters

[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

hmm idk, that were competing with other products coming out at that time doing the same this for way less money. chrome cast, apple tv, Amazon fire stick, etc... a $100+ device already seemed like a tough tough sell to me in that market when the apple tv was that much, but that's just the apple tax...

[–] MrGerrit@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago

That's cool and all but Smashing a brick isn't as satisfying as smashing a Xbox!

The legendary: "smash my Xbox!"

[–] umbraroze@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm so glad Xbox One toned down some of the always online rubbish before it actually launched. It wasn't that bad, fortunately. I have to say Xbox One user experience was pretty meh compared to Xbox 360 in the first year and half or so.

These days, Xbox One and Series S/X are pretty great, but unfortunately ever since the Xbox One launch I've adopted the "let's not get too hyped up about this because Microsoft just might drop the ball a little bit" mindset. Especially as a Halo fangirl.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They lost me forever just by trying that shit. I've been PS ever since.

[–] drcobaltjedi@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

I've personally had a grudge against sony for years now after they robbed me of otherOS, that combined with their rootkit BS and blocking me from paying for something with a giftcard because I don't remember the 3 digit code on a credit card that stopped existing years ago.

For reference, I don't trust either Sony or MS to do the "right thing" but MS hasn't slighted me yet

[–] notepass@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah I still remember back when MS just yeeted all this shit out. Basically killed their sales for their generation. And gave Sony that absolute banger of a trolling chance.

[–] Twelve20two@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 years ago

I didn't buy my Xbox One; my partner did when she was still with her ex. He made her get it on release day. It still works perfectly fine, and I'm very happy with it :)

If anything, I kinda just want a new controller or two