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like all the fuckin ads with the hugging families around winter. any educationally normal adult knows everyone just gets more stressed, with travel and gifts and social obligations and everything, but you're not even allowed to...openly feel that, it seems? it's like there's this happiness benchmark you have to reach, otherwise you'll feel even shittier and sadder for not having a happy holiday season

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[–] rah@feddit.uk 56 points 11 months ago (1 children)

not even allowed to

Just so you know, you can live without conforming to other people's expectations.

[–] zinaer@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Especially when said expectations are dictated by ad revenue.

[–] Hotdogman@lemmy.world 40 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Where is the unpopular opinion?

[–] Bhaelfur@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

The unpopular opinion is thinking that it's an unpopular opinion.

[–] thegiddystitcher@lemm.ee 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The trick is to figure out what you want your holidays to look like, and then just do that.

We've got a weird tradition of going to the beach every Christmas Eve, wandering along the freezing cold pier, getting cheesy chips, then heading home where my husband pours himself a glass of something luxurious and watches Zulu while I generally get in a spot of knitting or gaming or something.

This year, his mam is trying to organise a big family party on Christmas Eve. Whole family will be there...except us. We've got our tradition and we like it. No stress.

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

You should come join us in NZ - we get good hot beaches for Xmas.

Im known as a Grinch because I can't stand the wonton consumerism, expectations and , let's be honest, propaganda around it. As far as I'm concerned Xmas eve should have a walk of something with the kids, they can have one decent present that they actually want, Xmas day is for eating far to much easy to cook stuff and eating it with lots of people on the deck, and boxing day should be spent at that previously mentioned hot beach.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Im blaming autocorrect, because clearly it's not me that made a mistake.

It was me.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

Nothing is stopping you from not giving a shit about official holidays.

My immediate family just gets together random weekends. There's never stress or conflicting schedules. So it makes it better for us, even if there's still inlaw shit on actual holidays.

It's an incredibly easy thing to do, literally nothing is stopping your family from doing the same.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 20 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I wish I could convince my family to drop the presents altogether. We're all adults now, no grandchildren, and all we do is trade money between most of us with gift cards, but still have to find presents for my mother, father, grandma. Kinda stressful when most of them get themselves what they want when they want it.

[–] ChexMax@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Once we all became adults, we implemented a secret Santa with a money range. We pick a different theme every year. It is way less stressful to buy for a single adult than to try to find gifts for 12!

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Secret Santa or donations to charities of choice maybe? Idk. Presents stress me the hell out because most of the people in my life are impossible to please lol

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

We started doing that a few years back. Just pool our gift budgets and pick some charities to give to. So much easier and honestly a lot more fun than shopping. We usually still do some stocking stuffers but that's just small things, little snacks and things.

[–] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

My family did white elephant for a bit. It's easier to get a novel gift for the game than it is to try and figure out what each relative wants.

[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Well, Christmas is one of the most fake holidays there is. Mostly due to it's timing during the year. It's the easiest and most important time to sell things. So 99% of what you are "supposed to feel" is just a commercial trying to get you to buy that feeling.

Christmas can be that whole relaxed hangout with family thing and not have store bought presents like on TV in a small town. If you don't live in a small town, assume almost no Christmas stuff from TV will be possible.

Also most families only have 1 or 2 important Christmas traditions, there's just such a wide variety of them that for movies to "appeal" to a wider audience they have to do a bunch of stuff to hopefully hit upon a tradition that matters to as much of the audience as possible.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Also most families only have 1 or 2 important Christmas traditions, there's just such a wide variety of them that for movies to "appeal" to a wider audience they have to do a bunch of stuff to hopefully hit upon a tradition that matters to as much of the audience as possible.

I never thought about that last part, but it's so true. Movies try to check of every single holiday box, but most of us only do a few of those things. Like, I can't remember the last time I went to a tree lighting. Maybe as a kid. But every Hallmark movie features the whole community in Town Square gathered for it like every single town stops what they're doing to all just gather around a tree across the world.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Marketing is a major component of what’s wrong with everything, not just the holidays, but I agree wholeheartedly that any of the positive aspects the November and December holidays bring are completely overridden by the stress of them. Which is the opposite of what they are supposed to be for

[–] Touching_Grass@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

A lot of us do have both happy and stressful holiday. But its not like reminding people that stress exists makes it better. Learn to live your life at your pace not stressing what ads or TV tells you that you should do.

Reject culture if it isn't working for you. Do your thing.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago
[–] RedditReject@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'd like Christmas more if I didn't have to buy gifts for everyone all at once. I don't mind giving gifts and I do it through the year just when I see things someone would want. It is just it all has to happen all one day business

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

What annoys me is I'm the only single one at our family gathering so I get fucked over. I have to buy for 3 families worth of individuals (12 total) and in return I get 3 gifts because they go as a team.. It's not even getting less stuff that's the problem, it's just a giant pain in the ass to buy for that many people. If it was up to me we'd just get shit for the kids and be done with it.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

If they go as a group to get something expensive then I don't see the problem.

Ex: let's say the amount is $20 per person but six people go together to get you a $120 gift then there isn't a problem to me. If they go together to get you a gift and the gift cost $20 total then yeah then there's a problem.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

That's why I only give gifts privately and to my little brothers and mom, nobody else gets anything. I also don't attend family get together so there's that.

[–] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago

A part of me finds it strange when it comes to the holidays how we are in many ways time warping back to idealized 40s or 50s Christmas every year with the decorations, music, and themes. It's nice in ways to enjoy that nostalgia but for many of us that idea was just that an idea of what things were going to be like.

For many it was a grittier experience. Just think about those that dare to mention politics let alone some old family trauma. I get why some are like nah let's stay home. In a lot of ways that how it really was when things were "great" back then with the alcoholism and deadbeat family members.

In the end it's a testament to what a great job Coke did with those Christmas ads years ago now.

[–] wowwoweowza@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Truth: I have seen no ads “with the hugging families around winter.”

It’s not the holidays that are causing angst. It’s the ads.

And they are easy to opt out of:

Choose platforms, legal or otherwise, that do not expose you to ads.

Yes — we have family coming and I was up at 5am cleaning — but I’m glad I’ve done that. Extrinsic motivation is what it takes to get me to do unpleasant tasks — so I agree with you about the stress piece.

But perhaps not seeing all the schmaltzy advertising makes the holidays more bearable?

[–] girl@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

For me, it’s not the ads, my husband and I cut out most exposure to those a while back and are still stressed. It’s the sheer amount of obligation, the lack of time to rest. Between thanksgiving and new years, between both our families, we have 6 birthdays and 4 major holidays. It’s exhausting. I don’t even want to celebrate my own birthday this year, I’m moving it to spring lol

[–] Sea_pop@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

This year I started Holiday shopping about 6 months ago. I am 99% done, just have to wrap them. Cut way down on my stress levels. 10/10 would recommend.

Don't let others dictate how you feel around the Holidays. Need some days off for you? Take em. Don't want to drive/fly across the country? Don't. There will be a next year. Focus on the now and how you feel.

[–] TurdFerguson@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

This isn't an unpopular opinion, a lot of people feel stressed during the holidays. However, to be fair, what are the stores and ad companies supposed to do? Of course they're going to portray the holidays as a happy time, it would be strange and against their objective if they didn't. Heads would roll at Ye Olde Major Ad Corp!