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[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 287 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Firefox release notes: we improved the privacy of our browser

Chrome release notes: fuck you and fuck your fucking adblock

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 49 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)
[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 58 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Clarity is needed here. The California language that sparked all this is qualified with "about FakeSpot's products and services". Meaning it could simply be third-party services that they send their own emails through.

After reading their privacy policy, nothing jumps out at me that contradicts this.

To be clear, I'm not a fan of the extension's collection practices, but the down votes could be because this may be unwarranted fear.

[–] SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Unwarranted fear or healthy skepticism? This is the perfect time to “just ask questions.” Firefox is selling itself as a privacy respecting platform and therefore should be held to a higher standard than the garbage that is chrome. If it can pass the test it will be proven again and earn more trust which should result in more users, if it fails then it deserves to be criticised and lose users. Point is if you are selling yourself as privacy respecting you are selling yourself by default as ethical.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

100% agree. I wasn't trying to say the collection practice isn't bad, just that the other linked threads may be taking things a bit farther than what the policy actually says.

[–] SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ok. It’s things like this where the detail matters so thank you

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[–] LWD@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)
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[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 134 points 10 months ago (15 children)

No idea why people use Brave when Firefox exists

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Well, it said right there in the article that until today, Brave was that only browser that would truncate tracker tags when copying a URL to clipboard.

Moar browsers == moar innovation.

[–] Lafrack@lemmy.world 50 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Interesting, in the past Brave injected their own affiliate links into URLs. That alone should tell you not to use it.

https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/8/21283769/brave-browser-affiliate-links-crypto-privacy-ceo-apology

[–] tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Oh plus the integration with crypto...

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[–] Communist@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago

Yeah but you can easily install clearURLs

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[–] h_a_r_u_k_i@programming.dev 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Default Brave blocks ads more aggressively than default Firefox. Of course you can achieve that with Firefox + uBlock Origin, but add-ons are not available on iOS and iPad OS.

That's just my experience. I still use Firefox + Firefox Focus BTW. To block more aggressively, I also use VPN + Adguard Home.

[–] ColonelSanders@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This. Only reason I use Brave is for my iPhone (which I am already planning to jump back to Android when it's time for a new phone) because I can listen to YouTube videos/music in the background and no ads when going through the browser (another reason I'm going back to Android is for Revanced). Everything else is FF

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[–] preasket@lemy.lol 104 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Firefox's been killing it recently

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[–] LWD@lemm.ee 56 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)
[–] LedgeDrop@lemm.ee 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Thanks for the comprehensive write-up. It convinced me to migrate back to Firefox.

I was on Firefox (8 years ago), moved to Chrome (I liked the non-admin/transparent update feature and Websites didn't break like they did with ff), then moved to brave (basically chrome + more privacy), and now I'll go back the Firefox (I hope I won't encounter too many non-FF websites)

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)
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[–] PlexSheep@feddit.de 5 points 10 months ago

I always use do not track. If they fingerprint me with that, they are explicitly disregarding it. It obviously gives moral superiority.

[–] Paddzr@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago (10 children)

It's a real shame industry doesn't embrace firefox. There's far too many things i rely on which only runs on chromium.

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[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Thank you old friend. Sorry I've been gone for so long.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

TFW sense of superiority knowing I started using firefox since late 2000s and never once abandoned it.

[–] Amilo159@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Firefox needs to chill on the version numbers

[–] optissima@lemmy.ml 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Blame Chrome for ruining versioning

[–] gramathy@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Honestly I think this is more on Apple for using “os x” for two decades

[–] deeznutz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Blame users for not understanding semantic versioning and just wanting a bigger number.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

Remember that time the users were right?

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[–] marcos@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

Version numbers are almost meaningless for end-user software anyway. Add 1 every time it changes is about the best you can do.

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Nvidia needs to chill on the version numbers, their graphics driver is currently at version 537 lol

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[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

no, I'm looking forward to firefox 420 in 2048

[–] ViscloReader@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

I think it's alright, sure it's not conventional but you get the point after all and non techy people also get the point. bigger number = highest update

[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago

We need the TL;DR bot

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 10 months ago

waiting mozilla release its gecko webview and site isolation on mobile browser

[–] elias_griffin@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Mozilla Foundation fronts Mozilla Corporation which is for-profit and brings in nearly a Billion in revenue.

Don't donate, do harden it.

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (4 children)

To be fair, a lot of that money comes from google that pays to have google as search engine

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