From a post on Reddit I read, some hardcore F1 fans from Las Vegas paid $200+fees for a Thursday-only ticket just to see the cars running in their city, only to be kicked out after only 8 minutes of actual running and a long wait in the cold, leaving the area as the cars resumed FP2, and being told that there would be no refunds. Honestly, infuriating.
this post was submitted on 17 Nov 2023
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That would be a charge back for me. Let them explain to the credit card companies how its not fraud.
The reason for kicking out people was obligations the employer holds for personnel (securities and support staff). They needed to send the employees home because it was getting too late in the night and their shifts were ending.
How tf FOM did not see this coming is unbelievable. It's literally advertised as a night race, they should have known that there is a possibility for delays. I have never seen anything like this in Europe, where most countries arguably have stronger wodker protection laws. How did they not have another team on hold that could take on those responsibilities?
Closing the stands under those circumstances is understandable, albeit reflects poorly on the organization and planning.
Refusing to issue a refund afterwards is completely unreasonable.
You would think a class action lawsuit is possible.
They didn't plan on the ground force from the cars sucking up the water valve covers in the street of the race track which requires asphalt repairs so I don't think we can expect them to plan on delays for staffing either. I have to think they were already maxed here as it was.
I'm surprised to read they are running cars at 230 am to 4am. I understand the time constraints but that racket at the middle of the night. Good thing it's in Vegas I guess.
As for why they water pipes under roads a part of me doesn't get for disruptions to traffic. I would have thought these would be better run under sidewalks and the edges of roads but I'm a layman in these areas. I suspect there's good reasons for this?
I understand that they didnt expect this particular incident. But sessions being delayed isnt some magical new thing. It happens all the time. They shouldn't have organized the personnel in a way that they were already maxed out by default.
But only hiring barely enough people in order to maximize profits is the American Way! Why hire 2 people if you can overwork and underpay 1?
Cost effectiveness
This is appalling. Some of these people might have come to F1 for the first time and this experience will drive them away.
Firstly, this race and all the practices etc should be DURING THE DAYTIME in the local country. Is ridiculous to expect fans to come at 1am. Are the FIA f*ing mad???
So what if we here in the EU will be sleeping had it been during the Day? We can either choose to stay up or catch the replay.
I think they've lost their minds a little.
Isn't the reason it's at night because they can only close the roads for a limited amount of time?
No idea but if that's the case they should've not done it in Las Vegas. Or built it in the desert
Certainly seems like a bit of shit show.
Hosting an F1 race is sometimes thought to be good for your international image, but doing it like this just makes you look like a police state.
What in the ever living fuck does this have to do with the country and it being a police state? America fucking sucks but what the fuck are you on?
In case you are blind and the images have no alt text, the linked article prominently features images of people being "removed" from the grandstands by men in police uniform.
FIA is quick on fines against teams and drivers if rules/contracts are broken. Is there any possibility of fines against the Las Vegas track management or so?
Afaik the Las Vegas track is managed by FOM. So FIA would need to fine FOM. It's possible, but unlikely.
All we need now is for the race to suck. If that happens, maybe racing in Vegas is just cursed.
What a fucking shitshow. Can we just bring all the races to Europe so we won't have this? Holy fuck...
It's not about the venue, it's about greed and corruption in the FIA
The organising of this race is all Liberty/F1, FIA just enforce the rules, right?
True - I always group them together in my head and that's not the case. Good call out!
The venue is also shit.