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Useless messenger (lemmy.ml)

submitted 10 months ago by RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world

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And no IPad version to

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[–] nottheengineer@feddit.de 110 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Isn't the web version a full client that works without a phone nearby nowadays?

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 83 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes it is, and because of who owns it, I would even prefer that to an unsandboxed closed source native binary.

[–] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Pretty much I'll never understand why people want their webpages to be apps with access to all your shit

[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

It's because the vast, vast, VAST majority of people have no idea that many apps are just showing a website. Also, the app version is almost always more efficient in terms of precious phone screen real estate compared to a browser. Apps also remember who you are so you don't have to login. It isn't hard to understand why people like them.

That said, many apps are horrible from a privacy perspective. But that is largely hidden from the average user, most of whom simply don't think much about online privacy anyway.

I hope the ubiquity of irritating ads are the thin edge of the wedge that gets more people interested in ad-blocking, and then perhaps online privacy more generally.

[–] FarLine99@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

it is convenient mostly for developers, not people.

[–] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 7 points 10 months ago

But a lot of these apps are electron webpages in application form I'll never understand it

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[–] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, but no calls, because apparently a browser doesnt have microphone and speaker support

[–] spez@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

Whatsapp does their calls over voIP anyways right?

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[–] Hubi@feddit.de 70 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I wouldn't install it on my system in any case.

[–] doofer_name@feddit.de 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Same. No sane linux user should.

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Und: Hubi ist Linux Nutzer konfirmiert. - 2023, koloriert

[–] Hubi@feddit.de 11 points 10 months ago

👀

[–] RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I don’t like WhatsApp, but some people simply refuse to use anything else (“better”) and the web clients can bridge the gap but it’s extremely annoying not being able to answer a call with a person you are texting

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[–] Desistance@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Stop using Facebook products

[–] RealPuyo@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

I'm tired of seeing it

[–] Mio@feddit.nu 29 points 10 months ago (12 children)

Even if it exists, then it does not have to be good. Look at Microsoft Teams.

[–] WindowsEnjoyer@sh.itjust.works 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Microsoft Teams???

[–] gunpachi@lemmings.world 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I also hate it but unfortunately have to use it for work.

[–] somenonewho@feddit.de 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It's a stopgap but Teams for Linux at least gives you Wayland support, choice of seperate window sharing and background filters

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[–] pizzawithdirt@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's a web app, you don't really need a native application for it.

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 months ago (6 children)

I just use discord via the browser. Why would I allow it to harvest my data as an app?

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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Meanwhile in the US and Canada: So, I'll just send an SMS, k?

[–] Kyoyeou@slrpnk.net 6 points 10 months ago (10 children)

Also in the US: Blue SmS right?

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[–] sederx@programming.dev 21 points 10 months ago

Stop using that shit

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"best i can do is a chromium only web app"

[–] Dfy@lemm.ee 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Works in Firefox for me

[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Facebook couldn't bother making a proper Android app for years. Now you want them to make Linux apps? The likelihood is small...

[–] Rin@lemm.ee 15 points 10 months ago (8 children)

My MF smartwatch has WhatsApp but still no Linux version.

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[–] Andrew15_5@mander.xyz 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You shouldn't use this app in the first place. It had many data breaches and it copy everything from Telegram (maybe everyone copies, but I don't use other apps). I only mainly use Telegram and Matrix.

[–] n1ved@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (5 children)

It's impossible to convince that to friends and family. In my country everyone use WhatsApp as primary messaging app . It's kind of like iMessage situation in US

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[–] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

VIBER HAS A LINUX VERSION?!?!

also android is kinda linux

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[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why are we installing Whatsapp to begin with?

[–] nixcamic@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Where I live everything is on WhatsApp. You want to get ahold of a business: WhatsApp, friends organizing a party: WhatsApp, want to check the traffic: WhatsApp.

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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Discord on Linux kinda sucks, though. It's more resource demanding than the Windows version and I can't even stream with audio.

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[–] khannie@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

web.whatsapp.com works really well

edit: It does not do voice or video but I'm OK switching to my phone for those

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Its proprietary so that's not a shock

[–] RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago (15 children)

So is Discord and Viber

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[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

There are plenty of desktop wrappers available for the Web version. I don't use WhatsApp often but from my experience it seems fairly similar to the Windows desktop app

[–] spookedbyroaches@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Main problem is that it doesn't have voice and video calls there.

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[–] Jagermo@feddit.de 5 points 10 months ago

Use it in matrix? Or Element One?

[–] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wrappers are available as snaps/flatpaks

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