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Yes please secede. Texas has enough electoral votes that if it split off, the modern republican party would never win again.

"We are going to be so rich,” he chanted. “We’re gonna be rich. We are gonna be rich. We. Are. Going. To Be. Rich! … As soon as we declare independence, we're going to be wealthy. I personally believe that our personal GDP will double in five to seven years."

😂

Oh, he's serious. Where would the food come from? Because Texas is terrible for farming. You can't live off of beef.

Days before the meeting, the Texas Nationalist Movement announced that it was more than halfway to the roughly 100,000 signatures needed to put a non-binding secession referendum on the Texas Republican primary ballot.

Non-binding‽ Stop! I can't take it! 🤣

If he's a preacher why hasn't his church had his tax exempt status removed. All federal perks or aid to him or his church need to be taken away

Go ahead, this'll be fun. Let's see, to travel out of your country, you'll need a passport, and for that to be accepted, you'll need a treaty in place Sure, you've got oil, but you basically need to be part of OPEC to sell it, and they decide price and volume. To ship anything you produce, you need treaties in place

Yep, let's see how this goes.

No Liberals? Do they plan to sell Austin?

Ok, but next january or february when the snow wipes out their electrical system, we won't be sending any linemen from the United States to help patch things up.

I'd trade Texas for Puerto Rico any day.

Also... Oh, your colleges aren't in the US? No, you don't get to play with us. You can't have it both ways, shitheads.

This would be such a shit show. Democratic states outside of Texas would be all for this, because the right would loose a ton of representatives.

Moreover, all the big centers of commerce in Texas would push back hard. Austin, Dallas, etc. The big cities that make the money are all blue.

Ok. Bye.

So anyway ...

Wonder how long it would survive without US support? Probably less than a year. Mexico could reclaim their land after that.

Please do! Without their 40 electoral votes we won’t see a Republican in the White House for generations.

Texas state government received $39.5 billion in grants from the Federal government. I'm sure that would put a dent in their infrastructure maintenance for the state. Source: https://comptroller.texas.gov/economy/fiscal-notes/2017/november/federal-funding.php

There is only one proper response to this:

https://www.texasstandard.org/stories/texas-population-majority-latino-census-bureau-update/

Texas has been majority white since at least the mid 1800s, but Hispanics have been expected to overtake the majority for some time. Now, new data shows that happened at some time in 2022.

The U.S. Census Bureau updated its official population estimates, and the numbers confirm Latinos have officially made up the largest share of the state’s population since at least last July.

Lloyd Potter, state demographer of Texas and director of the Texas Demographic Center, said Hispanic Texans made up 40.2% of the state’s population last summer, edging out non-Hispanic white Texans, who made up 39.8%.

“When we look at demographic and population change, there’s what we refer to as components of population change,” Potter said. “The three major components are births, deaths and net migration. So when we look at and when we compare population change between the non-Hispanic white population and the Hispanic population, the dynamics of those elements are different.”

For example, Hispanics tend to have higher birth rates than the non-Hispanic white population, Potter said.

They deserve everything that's coming to them. Best of luck in your endeavors.

Good... and also "bye".

Quit shitting your pants about it and just do it, Texas.

These fools are severely underestimating how much value comes with being part of the US. There's are just too many advantages being in a strong economic union like the United States. Its cities especially would have their population leaving in droves. Of course, none of these prosperity gospel preachers are going to have Texas go anywhere. The South already tried that once, and it didn't turn out so well for them did it?

But what's wrong with windmills??

Bye bye! Don't let the missing welfare transfer hit you on the way out. It'll save the other states tons.

I LOVE this Country and want to NOT be a Part of it anymore!

The libertarians will get what they want: freedom from taxes and public services like police, courts, insurance regulations, you know, stuff nobody needs.

This is the best summary I could come up with:

WACO — Standing in front of a massive state flag on Saturday, Claver Kamau-Imani outlined his utopian vision of a Nation of Texas that he believes is just on the horizon.

For years, experts have thrown cold water on Miller’s movement, saying that secession is patently illegal and unconstitutional, and would be economically catastrophic for the United States and Texas alike.

(Miller vociferously disagrees, arguing that there is no constitutional ban on secession and that the post-Civil War court case often cited by experts — Texas v. White — is also unclear on the issue).

And the event's lineup included Hall, the Edgewood senator, who discussed “securing” Texas’ elections and power grid, and Kyle Biedermann, a former state representative who in 2021 proposed putting a referendum on secession to voters.

Packed in a small exhibit hall between amateur knife traders, book publishers and essential oil sellers, they commiserated in their intense distrust of government – a sentiment that they said has become more normalized since the COVID-19 pandemic, to the boon of their movement.

Beyond grievances about federal overreach and corporate welfare, though, few attendees offered concrete details on what a new Texas nation would look like, or how it would operate or confront the many intractable economic, cultural or political problems that could follow.

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