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He Claimed God Sent Hitler to Create Israel. Now He’s Speaking at the Pro-Israel Rally. What? (www.motherjones.com)
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[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ahh yes. Makes perfect sense. God created everything, he even created the apple that he didn't want Adam and Eve to eat, they ate it anyway, even though God knew that would happen, giving Adam and Eve free will, something that God knew would happen but didn't want to have happen even though he didn't have to create the universe in such a way that would allow this to happen. Anyway, a few thousand years go by and a bunch of humans high on some desert junk write a bunch of nonsense stories about the end of days, so God creates Adolf Hitler to kill all of the Jews, which are God's favorite people and the ones that are the coolest yet most deserving of genocide apparently, so that the ones that Hitler didn't kill could get their own made up country in the middle of the desert, so that God could press a button and open seals on a book or something that would unleash pure misery and despair unto the world so that he can take the REAL favorites (the Gentiles, not the Jews) to heaven while everyone else burns in pure agony for all eternity because that's the normal flow of logic that an omnipotent and omnipresent deity would need to to follow in order to have a bit of fun.

And they wonder why people think fundamentalists are fucking insane.

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

This is rather hilarious!!!

[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/4914598

Republicans could call all jews the k word but as long as they still support Israel, they’d be fine, and probably get aipac donations for it.

Life immatates art.

[–] odium@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What's the k word?

[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago

Its an antisemitic slur. Tried to find something on ADLs website but the information here is consistent with what I know about it.

https://www.ajc.org/translatehate/kike

[–] havokdj@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Bike with a k instead of a b. I hadn't heard or read that word in forever so it took me a minute to actually remember it.

[–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, yeah. There needs to be a fantastic war in the Holy Land for the Rapture to happen, the final battle, Armageddon, stuff like that.

It helps to understand that a lot of these Zionist fundamentalists live in something of a death cult, they're frothing excited for the end of the world so they can all go to heaven.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My wife is publishing a queer YA novel through Amazon and their family is questioning them about their salvation again. My wife and I were raised evangelical but left the church and later deconstructed. We hide that from their family. Their mother literally told them she's having nightmares about not being able to spend eternity in heaven with them. My wife finally put together why their family is so worried about it all of a sudden. It's 100% the Zion shit. They genuinely believe the end times are coming.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

That's the kind of shit religion does to people. They can't just be proud of their child for their accomplishment...

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

This fucking guy is still alive?

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you think God created Israel (by any means necessary), I bet you would be pro-Israel. Doesn't seem logically inconsistent

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I believed their god existed at all, I'd view him as a vastly worse version of how they describe Satan. Creating an entire universe full of thinking, feeling beings just to torture most of them is incomprehensibly evil.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It's consistent in its inconsistency. To take every single page of the Bible at face value is to be naive and unable to identify contradictory information.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Israel you have some strange bedfellows.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not strange at all, really... birds of a feather and all that.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why dont you explain what you are trying to insinuate or imply.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Insinuate?

No... white supremacists being perfectly supportive of white supremacist settler-colonialist projects is far too mundane to require insinuation.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its still not clear to me what you are saying.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you surprised by the fact that Christian Zionists are white supremacists - and always have been?

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm just asking you to explain what you meant by your original comment in plain language.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Are you a Christian Zionist?

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You seem overly cautious about explaining what you meant.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Do you require me to expain white supremacism to you?

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Taking down the church with politics. Good job, Hagee.

[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

He looks like Senator Armstrong from the Metal Gear Rising series...

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

religious people seem to know a lot about god

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

religious people seem to know a lot about god

Until you ask some difficult questions, then they're all "mysterious ways "...

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Why did god allow those children to be murdered/raped/tortured?

There must be a reason. Our minds can't comprehend or interpret gods will. He works in mysterious ways.

Does that sound about right?