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[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 352 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Literally asking for people to interfere with the court case...

Sounds familiar...

[–] SlowNoPoPo@lemm.ee 37 points 1 year ago

Won't someone rid me on of this meddlesome priest?

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 209 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this should be a clear violation of the gag order. but it wont be. theyll be some hand waving and he wont be held to account. and no, a monetary fine is not justice.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 60 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The gag order was in reference to court staff only, wasn't it? Didn't the judge explicitly leave himself off it? I forget which judge this is, there are so many

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Judges have to be careful with their orders. They have a lot of power, but are always subject to review. No judge wants to see their orders overturned on appeal because of some action they took.

So while a judge absolutely can impose a broad gag order on Trump right away based on his past behavior, his lawyers get to appeal, and they have shown that their legal strategy is whining about every little thing until they get their way.

By doing out punishments in small stages, he can establish a clear pattern of objectionable conduct, such that when the harsher penalties come, his lawyers have a much worse position to whine from.

honestly im surprised he didnt just outright threaten someone. it kinda feels like this is a desperate attempt at a mistrial.

how many judges would allow 'well, you only broke the intent of my rules not the letter, so ill let it slide this 3rd time'. its prolly zero... unless of course you know the intent of the defendant is to generate a mistrial or other incident allowing appeal.

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[–] Number1SummerJam@lemmy.world 167 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hold him in jail NOW, no excuses

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 142 points 1 year ago (4 children)

lol if only.

We're sleepwalking into fascism.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 104 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's amazing how many times I've seen historians say that this is exactly how historic examples of fascism come about. First people laugh and think 'that would never happen. It's too absurd. Then as day turns steadily into night you look around and realize it's there and it's too late.

I have zero respect for anyone who continues to support the Republican Party, let alone Donald Trump. I can't help but see the same gullible, immoral, selfish fools that supported the likes of Hitler in the early 30s.

[–] SYLOH@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The 100th anniversary of the Beer Hall Putsch was last week. History doesn't repeat, but it certainly rhymes.

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[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I thought woke was going to destroy America, which is it

[–] Cheems@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would say more like drunk driving 40 over the speed limit down the wrong side of the highway with coke all over our nose

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[–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 78 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Remember, guys: defending free speech for Nazis is totally the best way to "preserve democracy"

[–] Phanlix@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (21 children)

I really wish more people understood the paradox of tolerance.

[–] Rednax@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Tolerance is a social contract, not an ideal. If someone refuses to adhere to the contract, then they are not entitled to the benefits of it either. Hence, there is no paradox. When we say "be tolerant to all" what we mean is "please adhere to the social contract, and assume everyone else does so, until proven otherwise".

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lock him the fuck up. Enough already.

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 57 points 1 year ago

The Judge after a Right Wing Terrorist puts a bullet in his head: "Let this $10000 fine be a warning to NOT let this happen again!"

[–] tym@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago (4 children)

While Trump deserves our ire and some jail time, I'm more concerned with what his popularity says about our society.

He's a gift in some ways: he's shown the true colors of our neighbors to us. If he makes it to the oval office again, so much would have to have gone wrong in the belt-and-suspenders approach being used right now.

I trust that there's an end game to disqualifying him because that's the only way we can buy time while figuring out how to address the ugly xenophobic truth about the future in the US.

I STRONGLY recommend reading Susan Faludi's "stiffed" if you want a play book on where we're headed (spoiler: it's the 90s again, but worse because one of the lost boys could be POTUS again)

[–] runner_g@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 year ago

We should know Friday on the ruling in Colorado. Judge heard closing arguments today.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-2024-14th-amendment-insurrection-colorado-280bc28e57a965a8d6e4d3329dc6aa07

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[–] jimbo@lemmy.world 47 points 11 months ago

WHY IS THIS MAN STILL WALKING FREE

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

The judge created this. By slapping him on the wrist, ever so gently, he is absolutely going to get more of it.

Wise TF up judge. Jail. No posting anything about the trial, your court, or anyone involved. You are not dealing with a normal person. He’s a demented sociopath. You can not allow this.

[–] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Translation: "The legal system isn't sufficiently stacked in my favour anymore like all the previous hearings were, so somebody move to illegal means of nudging the results while I hide behind plausible deniability in saying that I did not mean that at all."

[–] Zippit@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Perfect recap.

[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's actually better. He didn't write the comment, he just re-shared it, boosting the visibility. This is his typical MO. "Lots of people are saying the thing. I didn't say the thing." Until the judges tell him flat out to stop using his social media accounts or they'll throw him in jail, he's going to keep doing this shit.

[–] theostermanweekend@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Trump is a damn criminal fascist grifter. The day he leaves our lives, I'll do a goddamn dance.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

"Will no one arrest this turbulent judge?"

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Ball gag this orange lard and throw him in solitary, Christ.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"I wasn't calling for violence when one of my supporters did violence to these people. I said citizen arrest. They misinterpreted when they thought I wanted violence. The knock-on effect of chilling any future prosecutions also isn't what I wanted."

[–] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago

Will no one rid me of this judge?

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anyone know the odds that the chud he keeps "reTruthing" is Russian?

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If he's not in America, he's not much use to Russia. If he fled, the US would freeze his assets and seize his properties. All of his value would shrivel like his penis in a Siberian pool.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

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[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Do it yourself f-ing orange clown. Such a grift.

[–] Zippit@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Please just vote this buffoon out. I beg of you as a European. Please vote him out and make him irrelevant in every way possible. Just stop this madness.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 36 points 11 months ago (2 children)

We did vote him out. 3 years ago.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 16 points 11 months ago

Member when he basically told hillary to fuck off and shut up because she lost and we shouldn't have to hear from her anymore? Member when his supporters said they'd have backed off and accepted it if he lost?

God I wish this asshat followed his own advice, but a grifting amoral asshole will always do the grifting amoral asshole thing and cultists gotta cultist...

I'm so sick of living here, but I have no marketable skills to offer other countries...

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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We already did. He's trying to get voted back in. I'm afraid nothing short of him not existing any more will release his death grip on the GOP.

[–] iamtrashman1312@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (4 children)

nothing short of him not existing anymore

And the thing of it is is that this is exactly accurate. The man could die from anything and there would be a small but not insignificant crowd of people prepared to make him a martyr, claiming it was some "deep state" assassination

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

If it's gonna happen regardless, maybe someone should defenestrate him.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 13 points 11 months ago

Won't somebody rid me of this meddlesome priest?

[–] krayj@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't know anything about how truthsocial works.

Is "retruthed" the same thing as "retweeting" (or whatever that's called now on xitter), or is it closer to "liking" something?

Regardless, trump now thinks he's found a loophole in the gag oder by letting other people post it and then boosting it somehow?

The article was super confusing to me.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

It should be called repost, forward or redistribute. Retruthing is giving that stupid platform legitimacy.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hahaha, wow that's great news. It was always apparent he didn't understand what was happening around him, but he is really firing both barrels into his own feet here.

[–] Syndic@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I believe it when he actually faces consequences for his ballant regard for every aspect of the justice system.

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