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[–] NotoriousFregula@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Tell me what I'm missing:

I'm counting 58 seasons in Barnsley history between Championship and Second Division.

3.289 matches equals 56,70 matches per season. How does this add up at all?

[–] minimus_@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Surprised to see Grimsby there, never think of them as being a Championship stalwart.

I didn’t even consider blackpool being here. I figured they just gathered a bunch of Charlie Adam’s hungover sleeping in the park and they somehow managed to fake it till they made it

[–] Leading_Ship_1730@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Where is man city?

[–] TheHolyGoalie@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can’t believe Ipswich aren’t there

[–] Appropriate-Map-3652@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We didn't make the second tier until the 50s, so have had a lot less games than the other teams.

On the full table we're a place below Norwich with 100 games less played.

[–] gooneruk@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, I was going to query that, if it were only the Championship era. Ipswich got relegated from the Premier League in about 1995, and were in the Championship until they got relegated 18 months ago. I can't think of any other team that has been in purgatory for anywhere near as long. Maybe Preston?

We were relegated in 2019 so a bit more than 18 months ago. And we were last relegated from the PL in 2001. Our relegation to League One was the first time we'd been out the top two leagues in England since 1957.

But before that we were the longest serving Championship club. I think it might be Bristol City now?

[–] happymemersunite@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Keep these stats rolling in.

[–] discojesus100@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This means automatic promotion to the PL no?

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[–] Grim_Farts_Barnsley@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol Barnsley

And United top out of the Sheffield Clubs, as is tradition :)

[–] dkfisokdkeb@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Because Wednesday have spent longer in the top flight I'd imagine

[–] v1pro@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SandThatsKindaMoist@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Man City have the 6th most games in the top flight

[–] tarakian-grunt@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Barnsley leading this with a -686 goal difference.

[–] MAMBAMENTALITY8-24@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Thats how you know they are the kings of the championship

[–] qwerty1519@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] bjohnsonarch@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Something interesting to compare between this link and the EPL All-time Table would be the least successful Championship team to have ever played in the EPL - Northampton Town!

[–] Djremster@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There are three other teams from Burton above Burton Albion lmao.

[–] marktandem@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

All 3 of those other Burton teams are part of the lineage of Albion. Swifts and Wanderers joined to form Burton United, which later became a part of Albion.

[–] MimesAreShite@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Burton went through loads of teams in the early 20th century

[–] FickDichzumEnde@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Everton still near the bottom lol

[–] SandThatsKindaMoist@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Yea us playing hundreds of games less in the second division than every other team is a good thing.

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[–] SorenKnoxville@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Who’s made the most money from promotion?

[–] Alpha_Jazz@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well it would just be whoever has spent the most time in the PL. Since you don’t make money from the actual act of promotion

[–] therik85@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

It would be whoever has spent the most time in the Premiership recently. It wouldn't surprise me if Luton will end up making more this season than Coventry did in the first 10 seasons up there.

[–] four_four_three@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Probably Leicester overall given their peaks

[–] NaturalApartment9828@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Barnsley being 1st but also having the worst GD is a lovely sight

[–] Talidel@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I laughed at the 700ish extra games for a 300 ish point lead.

[–] mattBJM@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

One must imagine Barnsley happy

[–] homity3_14@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I read somewhere that Barnsley were the team that had played most second-flight seasons but I didn't realise how far ahead they were - over 600 games more than Hull in second.

[–] qwerty1519@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Norwich are also 24th in the all time premier league table.

[–] OneDishwasher@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Preston in 12th is very satisfying to me.

[–] THE_LFG@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

what did we do to you mate, we're just consistently mid

[–] OneDishwasher@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I know! I'm the biggest Preston supporter in America. Being top of the table earlier this season made me uncomfortable

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[–] Mad_Piplup242@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't forget Barnsley, You're here forever

[–] discojesus100@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We’re not even there now 😭

Tbh you should have gone up over Wednesday, you were the much better team in the playoff final.

If nothing else I can't imagine you'd have been any worse than they are right now.

[–] Zeta-Omega@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Well the only way is up, or of course you can be taken by shadow and flame and fall into the conference.

[–] MonkeyLigma@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Preston being a mid table team is never getting old

[–] joelobifan@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Supporting Preston and palace most be the most dull thing in the world

[–] Cypher360@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

They are not midtable, they are 12th

[–] simpodemayo@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

barnsley in second division purgatory

[–] crapability@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

When Middlesbrough back? I remember watching them some 20 years ago because I liked Juninho Paulista. They seem to have faded into obscurity since that time.

[–] bjohnsonarch@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Table when organized by Points per Match

1.553 - Sheffield Un

1.546 - West Brom

1.502 - Leeds

1.500 - Middlesbrough

1.492 - Leicester

1.488 - Birmingham

1.474 - Wolves

1.450 - Norwich

1.442 - Blackburn

1.438 - Burnley

1.430 - Derby

1.418 - Fulham

1.417 - Preston NE

1.402 - Sheffield W

1.396 - Stoke

1.385 - Cardiff

1.367 - Nottingham F

1.352 - Blackpool

1.340 - Millwall

1.316 - Hull

1.308 - Charlton

1.306 - Bristol

1.301 - Grimsby

1.261 - Barnsley

[–] frenchbud@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Thanks I was here for that, considering the difference in games played that should be the default sorting value if you want to make an all-time table that means something

[–] bjohnsonarch@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Plus, the one major caveat I would add to both charts is that the English Football League changed to the 3-point win scheme in 1981-1982 season, so I have no idea how that would influence the points per game calculation to make a true all-time table. OP's table, provided from the link in this post, calculates the points total using the 3-point scheme.

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[–] tkdyo@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Preston mid table no matter which way you sort it.

[–] ImGoingBlankAgain@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Fucking hell a league which we’re near the top in feel like I’m hallucinating

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