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One guy wants to work on Civil rights, taxes, and social services.
The other guy wants to jail anyone who said mean things about him, suspend the constitution, and immediately apon being sworn in use the military to institute the insurrection act and declare martial law.
Centralists: BuT bOtH sIdEs!!!
As someone who was centrist: you can't be centrist when one person is motivated by spite to tear it down. You aren't a centrist anymore. You're an accessory.
“Literally can’t tell them apart.”
also everyone on Hexbear.net
I generally give Republicans more benefit of the doubt than most. I consider myself a liberal libertarian with an open mind to all things. I think there were plenty of valid reasons to vote for Trump the first time around, reasons that much of the country chose to ignore because it was easier than addressing them.
If the GOP nominates Trump again, they deserve to lose as hardcore as possible. I didn't scream and cry when he was elected because I was willing to give him a chance and an open mind. But I think his first term said everything that needed to be said about his suitability as a leader. He talked a big talk of draining the swamp, but then filled his cabinet with alligators and no swamps were drained. If anything, swamps were created as he filled key positions with corrupt people who were loyal to him but had little experience or skill for the job at hand.
Love his policies or hate them, that's just corrupt bad government. And while I don't always agree with Biden's policies, much like Obama, he at least executes the duties of his office in a relatively competent manner.
Same thing if DeSantis gets the nomination. You can't run a platform of jobs creation when you pick a hissy fit with your state's largest employer because they dare voice some mild opposition to a policy of yours (especially when said opposition is essential for said company to maintain credibility on the national level). That speaks volumes about the kind of person, and the kind of leader, that you are. I would rather have someone who's policies I sometimes disagree with, then a childishly vindictive psychophant sitting in the big chair.
Sadly, this all is the very predictable result of the Karl Rove strategy- whip up social conservatives and evangelicals to drum up votes. The result is those groups now have significant power within the GOP, even though their platform of intolerant policies is unappealing to the broader nation to the point of making them unelectable in the eyes of many.
I think there were plenty of valid reasons to vote for Trump the first time around
If you knew anything about Trump you would not have thought this.
His SAVE program for Student Loans is fucking incredible. It dropped a crippling payment down to $32 a month. He may be old, but that has really helped me. I support him completely.
Yeah but why couldn't have Biden done that already!?!?!?! Guess I gotta vote 3rd party now to show how strong my moral character is so I can pat myself on the back as the world burns fake tan orange around me.
Dangling the carrot of civil rights in front of minorities just so he can get reelected.. it's sad, but it is what it is.
It's almost like shit has to go through Congress to become a law.
If people VOTE it very well may happen. Biden has surprised a whole lot of people so far. Look at the student loan forgiveness - it is happening IN SPITE of the Republicans.
It's not like the other guy is going to be better for their civil rights. I'd rather have the guy who doesn't keep his promises over the guy who wants me shot in the street for existing.
Dangling a carrot of civil rights vs. Dangling a carrot of internment camps. Which one gets the horse moving toward progress?
Pro-tip for more votes: Say "cease fire"
I see this as proof that we don't really live in a democracy. Most people are anti-genocide but a politician asking for a ceasefire is a fringe position. Most people want a higher minimum wage, but it's considered a fringe position in Washington. Most people want universal healthcare, but it's considered a fringe position.
Biden clearly doesn't give a shit about winning the next election.
Obama and Biden chained the Green Party candidate to chair for simply wanting to debate with the other two parties
Biden made cannabis a campaign promise and he walked back right at the start of his presidency
Harris laughed about having consumed cannabis in college while discussing her cannabis arrests
if Trump vs Biden is all we got left we are truly fucked
Newsflash: you're fucked
I know which one of the two is much closer to your priorities than the other...
Dude needs to promise to legalize weed at the federal level to make up for his past bullshit. That would probably get folks out to vote. Imma vote for the old geezer anyway because I don't want to live though Trump being president again. If Trump gets office again, he'll likely never leave.
Given his age, we should really be hearing what Harris wants to do with her presidency if he wins as well.
If she's good enough for a Biden she's good enough for me.
Have you seen the other guy? He's talking about instituting martial law on day one, posting armed guards at election sites, purging the federal government, and eradicating political opponents.
The dude already trying to steal a four-year term as president even though he knew he lost the election. If he's elected, he will 100% make himself a dictator for life.
IMO, he has inspired more terrorism in the United States than Osama Bin Laden ever did.
Yes, I have seen the other guy.
Which is why I'm quite concerned that an octogenarian with an unpopular VP who floundered during the primary race and has barely been seen since may not be making it to election day 2024 and passing the torch prematurely at the 11th hour during the most important election cycle in US history.
Biden is acting like a teenager that thinks they are immortal and risking the entire country on that presumption.
We should really be having a primary to run the most capable Dem candidates against Trump. But short of that, they should at very least be adequately preparing for a possible Harris v Trump ticket and not keep pretending she doesn't exist until she's unexpectedly thrust into the spotlight again.
While I agree with your "Have you seen the other guy?", I can also disagree with Harris.