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The code contains sections codifying that justices should not allow outside relationships to influence their official conduct or judgment, placing restrictions on justices participating in fundraising and reiterating limits on the accepting of gifts. It also states that justices should not "to any substantial degree" use their judicial resources or staff to engage in non-official activities.

Note that it sounds like this has NOT been officially adopted yet and so far there is no obvious means of enforcement.

See also: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/13/us/politics/supreme-court-ethics-code.html

Edit: Politco has posted the PDF of the "CODE OF CONDUCT FOR JUSTICES OF THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES"

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[–] charonn0@startrek.website 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Notably, they did not adopt the same code of ethics that all other federal judges are held to.

[–] Fauxreigner@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago

From the opening page

The Court has long had the equivalent of common law ethics rules, that is, a body of rules derived from a variety of sources, including statutory provisions, the code that applies to other members of the federal judiciary, ethics advisory opinions issued by the Judicial Conference Committee on Codes of Conduct, and historic practice. The absence of a Code, however, has led in recent years to the misunderstanding that the Justices of this Court, unlike all other jurists in this country, regard themselves as unrestricted by any ethics rules. To dispel this misunderstanding, we are issuing this Code, which largely represents a codification of principles that we have long regarded as governing our conduct.

So...

  1. Why, if you think the code that applies to all other federal judges is good, did you not simply adopt it?
  2. So the problem is that people think the justices consider them not bound by ethics rules because they don't have a formal code, not the behaviors of certain justices that have come to light in recent years, got it.
[–] theangriestbird@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To me, it feels like this is just written confirmation that they functionally have no code of ethics. They've been dodging the question for months, so I guess this is progress?

[–] Omegamanthethird@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, aren't they just saying they have to promise bribes aren't impacting their decisions while confirming they can definitely use official resources for unofficial reasons?

Seems like it's just codifying the wrong things.

[–] theangriestbird@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

I think you and I agree, we just phrased the same idea in two different ways

[–] argo_yamato@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

Seems like they are just making something up to see if people stop paying attention. It will not change a thing.

[–] storksforlegs@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

Relax everybody! They solved the ethics problem on their own!! Phew, democracy saved.

[–] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

There's no enforcement, it's just trust based. Literally taking bribes from billionaires for rulings, and they're off scott free

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 1 year ago

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Click here to see the summaryWASHINGTON, Nov 13 (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday adopted its first formal code of conduct governing the ethical behavior of its nine justices, bowing to months of outside pressure over revelations of undisclosed luxury trips and hobnobbing with wealthy benefactors.

That absence, the statement said, "has led in recent years to the misunderstanding that the justices of this court, unlike all other jurists in this country, regard themselves as unrestricted by any ethics rules.

The court has been buffeted for months by revelations regarding justices over undisclosed trips on private jets, luxury vacations, real estate and recreational vehicle deals, and more.

The news outlet ProPublica has detailed luxury trips taken for years by Thomas provided by Texas businessman Harlan Crow as well as real estate transactions involving the justice and the billionaire Republican donor.

ProPublica also reported that the conservative Koch network of political donors, which has had multiple cases before the court, has brought Thomas in recent years to its summit meetings.

A report by Senate Democrats in October also found that Thomas apparently failed to repay at least a "significant portion" of a $267,230 loan he received from longtime friend Anthony Welters to buy a luxury motor coach.


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[–] SteposVenzny@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

The nine-page code contains sections codifying that justices should not let outside relationships influence their official conduct or judgment,

Even if there were enforcement, this is a comically weak restriction. It looks like all it's asking is to behave as though you don't have a conflict of interests when you do have a conflict of interests.