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[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 60 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Dont fucking use this. Let it lose money so it goes away. Amazon is awful enough and if this shit trend continues, Meta will get into healthcare too using posts, tracking cookies and purchases on the platform too.

[–] PandaPikachu@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

AI doctors are probably going to be a thing whether we want them or not, one way or another in the near future. I don't think it'll be going away. https://health.google/health-research/

[–] Zikeji@programming.dev 9 points 10 months ago

In my opinion, I think that properly done AI assisted doctors are a good thing. Doctors have to keep track of so much stuff that is constantly changing, just to make a diagnosis. AI guidance can and will help.

Keyword being "properly" which is probably not going to be the case.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago

So basically this

[–] Outtatime@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Healthcare is already heavily corporatized in the US, this is just another worsening step.

[–] Outtatime@sh.itjust.works -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Have you used this service? Can you tell me if it's better or worse than other medical services available?

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I haven’t yet.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A poster above has.

I don't trust Amazon to shop with.

I expect it's only a matter of time before there's a huge HIPAA violation when we find out they're using health info to sell us shit.

[–] Outtatime@sh.itjust.works -4 points 10 months ago

😂

The hate for Amazon is real here I guess.

[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

There are a myriad of reasons why this is bad, and feel free to ask for explanation of any. This is just off the top of my head.

  • A single large monopolistic corporation should not have access to your purchasing and medical history
  • A single breach can now mean purchasing history and medical history
  • Huge potential for ads targeted for a person showing up on a device that isn't strictly theirs (like a family computer) that by doing so endangers their well-being.
  • Reselling of "anonymous" medical info (it'll happen) that is super easy to tie back to previously purchased Amazon info.
  • Third-parties who purchase info not having as hardened security as Amazon leaving data out in the open
  • AI/algoithmic price-gouging on items based on medical data
  • Even more god damned lobbying for anti-patient/anti-consumer based changes to health care law with the financial power of Amazon behind it
  • This sets the bar for other Big Tech and what they also have to do to stay competitive
  • Contacting Amazon customer service for errant prescription/care charges

Do you really want Jeff Bezos and an Amazon Board of Directors death panel deciding what care you receive?

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So if you can't afford traditional insurance which is 100% a scam then why is this a bad alternative?

[–] thefloweracidic@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

This isn't a good alternative either. From reading the article it looks like this service is meant to screen less serious issues, and if those less serious issues need an in person doctor visit, you'll need insurance.

The deeper problem is that if our personal data is gold, our medical data is diamonds. It may not be tomorrow, or a decade from now, but I guarantee any sort of contact non-medical corporations make with our medical data will result in a darker dystopia.

Targeted ads will be more invasive. Insurance premiums can be increased for "unhealthy" purchases. Medical coverage can be denied based on economic decisions. The list can go on. We would pretty much get a more perverse profit driven medical system if companies like Amazon start wiggling their way into medicine. Also regulations won't keep us safe, you can thank lobbying for that.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 52 points 10 months ago (3 children)

USA please get your shit together. That's so dytopian my head hurts. And you are a vision of the future for all other countries. Thank god I'll be dead by then.

[–] GONADS125@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've known this was coming for a few years after the CEO of my previous mental health employer told us he wanted to grow the company large enough to compete with Amazon who were going to be entering the primary care and mental healthcare field. He also warned of Walmart following suit.

It was a hard pill to swallow and I hoped he was wrong, but here we are... It's going to be a scary time if monopolies like Amazon and Walmart strangle out real providers and fuck up our healthcare industry even worse. We need these fuckers to have this fail spectacularly to preserve the industry.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago

Totally! You already have it bad enough.

Sadly, the critical group will always be inferior to the ignorant or clueless. And hence could be ignored for decision-making. It won't fail. Just throw enough moneyz to marketing and people would even buy your bath-water. Luckily Amazon doesn't have that many moneyz. /s

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

America is falling apart, I don't think our countries consider them a "vision of the future".

Maybe 15-20 years ago, now we are just wondering when the collapse will happen

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I meant, we will face the same fate when our decision-makers see how deep they can bend the americans without getting any resistance. And it's soooo deeeep. And i didn't mean the vision-thing like the good old "murican dream". More like a dystopian vision.

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Okay yeah, you make a scary valid point then. I can see it happening in Canada and a few European nations for sure.

Hell, all I have been seeing for the last 40+ years is a slow erosion of rights. The amount of laws and regulations alone has drastically increased since I was a kid.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago

Same here, fellow old fart. It's the culmination of maany tiny steps down. Or up, from a rich perspective. Too bad that both views inherently have to be directly opposed. When you say "amount of laws and regulations" you make it sound very german 😂

[–] Raz@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Wanna bet politicians will speedrun that shit, so just in time for us to die while suffering the effects! :D

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 44 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Giving Amazon your medical history… what could possibly go wrong.

[–] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago

Me on Amazon: I'll buy some of these.

Amazon: according to your medical records we have decided that it is against your own health interest to purchase this product, so we cannot sell you this product, but here are some Amazon approved alternatives.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago

I mean Google and Facebook probably already know what diseases I have/will have long before Im diagnosed

[–] heygooberman@lemmy.today 40 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think I'm going to stick with my local hospital network and pharmacy. I'm doubtful that my health problems can be solved by a company with a very poor reputation on worker safety and wellness.

[–] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 10 months ago

"Could you please pee into a soda bottle and hand it to the nearest Amazon delivery driver? They'll know how to handle it, don't worry, we've been training them for years "

[–] bit_thanos@monero.town 23 points 10 months ago

What could go wrong?

[–] GlitterInfection@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

For those not in the know, Amazon bought One Medical, they didn't create it. I've been using it since before the purchase and it has been much much better than any past medical care I've recieved.

I really hope that Amazon doesn't screw it up.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 months ago
[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

I can't wait until every company out there knows that if I don't have a certain product I die and jacks up the price for only me! I also can't wait for my family to come over and see ads related to my very private diagnosis they know nothing about! I also can't wait for potential cures to be blocked on my browsing profile because it'll hinder Amazon's profits!

[–] Princeali311@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

And they will incorrectly bill you every single time and you'll spend hours with billing for your insurance and one medical to sort it out and it'll take months.