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There has recently been a lot of debate on defederation as a tool. In particular, around exploding-heads and lemmygrad. I am somewhat in favour, but I do understand the concerns of fragmentation (I'm not going to entertain the "free speech" people).

I think most people on here - or at least the active commenters, which is a biased sample - don't like the general type of content on those instances and the communities they generate. This means, for instance, most of us probably don't want them appearing in the local and federated feeds.

However, the proposal for users to have to manually block those instances isn't really enough, because it means we all have to do this manually even if most of the instance doesn't want to propagate and elevate the content from these other instances.

What I think would be best is if/when Lemmy improves moderation tools ^.^. In particular, I'd suggest that we should push lemmy or actively develop into lemmy (its open source after all) some way to stop either specific communities or posts from entire instances from appearing in the main feeds, while they are still accessible if specifically linked to or searched for - "silencing". One step above per-user blocking of instances, but still below defederation.

We could also say "members from this instance can comment but not post" or other things to reduce the risk of hostile brigading and organising on this instance while not directly hindering interoperability ^.^

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[–] pattmayne@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit became popular through dangerous openness. I resent having some admin curate my experience. Give users more control to curate their own experiences. Stop getting in the way of what I want to read.

[–] Hanabie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, the solution is more tools for users to filter content. There's also been a discussion around general nsfw vs porn, which would also be nice to have as a deeper way to customise the experience on an individual level.

In general, I'm much more in favour of personal ability to filter, sort and categorise other posters, communities and instances, to really make it "your Lemmy", and less of a focus on making decisions for us on an admin/mod level.

[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We don't yet have the ability to block entire instances as users, as far as I know. All we can do is ask the admins to defederate. It sounds like there is a lot of interest in adding this feature, though.

If we could block entire instances at the user level, how much need would there be for the feature you suggested? As far as I know, there are only a small handful of instances that are seen as objectionable, so it seems like a small task to block them at the user level (if/when we are able to).

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Admin level blocking will always have to be a thing purely to keep content illegal in the admins' and hoster's jurisdictions out of the caches of the instance.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Several third party Lemmy apps have instance blocking features. Connect does, and I think Sync does too. I've blocked two or three instances.

[–] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

Why are you people constantly looking for ways to push your personal content curation onto everyone else? How about instead of crying that it's too much work to manually curate your own feed, you just do it, and stop trying to curate everyone else's