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[–] Fleur__@lemmy.world 72 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Man we really fucked this place up

[–] jhulten@infosec.pub -2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

By "we" do you mean "Europeans and their colonial spawn" and by "this place" do you mean "earth"?

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago

Europeans werent the only colonisers. Just saying

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

They hate the truth! It hurts their eyes.

[–] Caradoc879@lemmy.world 58 points 10 months ago

Slave. The word is slave. "Forced labor" sounds like it's downplaying the severity.

[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 48 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Didn’t know Australians still had slavery so late in history.

[–] LavaPlanet@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

They didn't even class indigenous Australians as people, until late 1960's. They were considered fauna.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

America still had slavery in the 1940s when the last slave was freed (might've been later than that) and it still has slavery in the form of prison labor

[–] A_cook_not_a_chef@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

And we still have slavery. It is legal per the 13th amendment. Disgusting.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

China still has slavery today.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

I mean sure maybe idk anything about china. What made you bring it up?

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

Also India, many places in Europe, the Arab states, South and North America. Or do you mean China is specially “slavey”?

[–] raynethackery@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Can you tell me more about that?

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Here's where I got this information, it's a long watch but well worth it. video

[–] Immersive_Matthew@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago

His videos are really detailed, fact based and eye opening for sure.

[–] Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

hahahahaha you think this is late???

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Aboriginals we’re even denied a seat in politics just in the last few months. I remember being shocked they voted in Tony abbot ..who for years screamed about women’s menstruation in parliament. Australia is super backwards.

[–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Abbott was also appointed Minister for Women.

The Voice which, if I understand correctly, wasn't an offer of a seat in parliament, it was a constitutional amendment that would allow an advisory board for Aboriginal and Torres strait islanders. They wouldn't have had any actual power any way.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

It was a British penal colony up until 1840

[–] Bebo 44 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And he might have ended up being a standup dude in another time.

That’s something that I think about often.

The average intelligence of the population of the world isn’t that great. Most people accept whatever reality is instilled in them. If you take a little baby and raise it up to think of some people as animals, they’ll probably never question it, and being surrounded only by people who accept that reality, they’ll never have a reason to question it. I very rarely meet a person who has ever really questioned their reality. It always surprised me when I do.

Most abolitionists came from a world where they were they weren’t exposed to slavery, so they were able to question it. Even then, only around 2% of the population were abolitionists, they just fought really hard for their cause until it rose up high enough to actually be considered for action.

I’m not even putting myself into that small group of people smart enough to question their reality. If I hadn’t grown up with the internet there’s a good chance I’d be a preacher in a Pentecostal holiness church somewhere. That small handful of people who question their reality help spread their questions to the idiot masses.

That’s why I admire people who fight for positive change above all other people. They fight an uphill battle daily. Sometimes they win big and I’m grateful they do.

[–] Syldon@feddit.uk 12 points 10 months ago

I have to agree here from experience.

One of my kids came out as gay. I grew up in a very homophobic environment in the 70s. I would quite often called timid people puffs etc. Sometimes around my kids, because that was how I grew up. You discouraged timid behaviour to stop them getting bullied. Realising one of your kids is gay was a real eye opener for me as to how bad these phrases are.

I would never treat a gay person differently. I just saw it as an expression that was common when I was young, and also in the environment I worked in. For context, I used to play squash with a guy from work, who everyone was convinced was gay. He actually got married in a heterosexual relationship a few years later, but whether he was or wasn't never bothered me. This ofc doesn't excuse the practise, it just shows how warped I was.

[–] mihor@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

The photo is upside down.

[–] GFY@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's crazy to me that people can look at this picture and then immediately start arguing about semantics.

[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago

Every one of those people said it's effectively slavery.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He looks way too fucking smug

[–] DragonTypeWyvern 8 points 10 months ago

No John Browns in Australia.

[–] Gazumi@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Even today, only cursory recognition that the Aboriginal people remain excluded from their own lands and ways

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Hey you could get a token reservation increased policing a nation that thinks themselves native and have since 1740 at the very least.

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"We forge the chains we wear in life." -some white person.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That statement isn't about slavery, or labor, it's about emotional bondage.

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The statement is about whatever the last person to crotchet it on a pillow believed it to be.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

It's a quote from Dickens, A Christmas Carol. It's about our sins binding us to misery or torment.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That enormous cockhole Rolf Harris sung about this in Tie Me Kangaroo Down, Sport like it was no big deal. And it was a huge hit and no one said anything.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I can't speak for anyone else, but the lyrics you wrote are the only lyrics to the entire song that I know, and I've always thought it was just some weird gibberish. Granted, I've never actively listened to it or sought it out, I've only heard it in passing.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tie_Me_Kangaroo_Down,_Sport

There was an offensive verse in the original song, later deleted. But this is far from the most offensive thing about Rolf Harris.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 10 months ago

Holy fucking shit…

[–] tweeks@feddit.nl 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

What is with the odd looking rib cages; I guess these are torture burn/whip marks, as they don't look like regular ribs at all?

[–] Putykat@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Look like scars

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I think it might be ritual scarification, but it could be torture marks as well. I'm not well-versed on this period or region of history.

[–] FinallyDebunked@slrpnk.net 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

What fine, upstanding men there were in days gone by.

[–] nyakojiru@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 10 months ago

They look like they don’t give a shit. What is the story of this photo?