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[–] Skies5394@lemmy.ml 103 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It’s basically just their Outlook web app. It offers no extra function, and breaks a LOT of old functionality.

There’s a registry key to turn off the button.

[–] baduhai@sopuli.xyz 77 points 10 months ago (2 children)

There’s a registry key to turn off the button.

Of course it's a registry key.

[–] emptyother@programming.dev 50 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A registry key which is probably reset every 3rd update anyway, as usual.

[–] Land_Strider@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Don't even need the damn button. Yesterday while playing some fullscreen game with critical network usage (CSGO) my windows 10 with edited group policies and registry keys to block updates just switched to the outlook from the old mail program and ran it in the foreground (behind the game).

Microsoft doesn't give a fuck about the user consent, the settings for updates, settings for game focus, out-of-the-way advanced user controls etc. These settings don't even need to be defaulted without consent via updates, it seems they outright don't work.

[–] nihth@programming.dev 8 points 10 months ago

Had a similar issue where my computer (w10) would restart while I was away and update my gpu driver which would crash regularly. There's two different places in windows where you can disable this, one in general and one for specifically the device. None of them worked. Basically was forced to do the whole restart to safe mode -> destroy driver -> restart -> install driver -> restart every day. What solved it was a gpo but at that point I was so fed up I ended up switching to Linux

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 months ago

Oof. If you aren't using them, you can uninstall the default included MS Store Apps with PowerShell. Could have saved you some trouble.

I was going to say I had a similar setup and didn't get that update, but I remembered I had uninstalled the mail app.

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Microsoft doesn't give a fuck about users.

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[–] kn33@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well, it's intended for companies, so for them there's InTune policies or is GPOs. For us plebs, we just have to not press the button.

[–] Caaaaarrrrlll@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

GPOs

Group policy can be modified by a laymen by launching gpedit.msc from Super+R or the start menu.

[–] kn33@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] kite@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Not on Home edition

You can do it on home. Takes a lot of googling and monkeying around, but I did it on my father's computer years ago.

[–] adavis@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

The Android app has done this for years too.

After connecting my (non Microsoft) email account to the Outlook Android app I noticed the login location was geolocated in the USA... I live in Australia.

Unfortunately there's no way to turn it off.

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 77 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean, duh!!

It’s a web version wrapped in some god-awful semi-native wrapper. Everything the app does is stored on the server. So, yes, like gmail, if you give it access to another IMAP account, the password is stored on the server BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS.

This isn’t a scandal. It shouldn’t be news.

The bigger discussion why are we pretending a server driven mail client is local?

[–] thomask@lemmy.sdf.org 48 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That is the discussion. Microsoft is pretending by making it the upgrade path for two products which actually are local, and hoping users won't notice.

[–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

At work I've been trying to use the new Outlook but the biggest gripe (other than this new news) is that it's once again, a fucking Electron app and a lot of features have been cut.

I work at an MSP and people have mistakenly changed to the new Outlook, and then find things like their local mail rules stop working (because it doesn't support those anymore), their custom accounting software that would compose an email in Outlook straight up won't do that with new Outlook, for businesses it's going to wreak havoc if Microsoft just force updates everyone.

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[–] Desistance@lemmy.world 64 points 10 months ago

Thunderbird ftw

[–] brihuang95@sopuli.xyz 44 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What are the more "trustworthy" email clients? Thunderbird still good?

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 70 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] Xenxs@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Is there a mobile app for Thunderbird?

[–] itsraining@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Not per se, but Thunderbird is supposedly collaborating with the K-9 team to make K-9 the mobile version of Thunderbird.

[–] i_am_hiding@aussie.zone 10 points 10 months ago

They acquired K-9 Mail a year ago or so, but it's still K-9 Mail. There's plans and a roadmap, but not much has happened that the end user can see, yet.

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[–] stark@qlemmy.com 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Does Thunderbird work with Exchange?

[–] Kushia@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] XenGi@lemmy.chaos.berlin 38 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

I don't get why people still use Microsoft services. How many data privacy scandals do we need, so they understand? Or do they still not care?

[–] mriormro@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because they're forced to? They own a large slice of enterprise.

[–] XenGi@lemmy.chaos.berlin 4 points 10 months ago

In taking about personal email. I also use outlook at work because I'm forced to, but I would never let these bastards touch my private Mails.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (4 children)

It's insanely cheap for what you get

Business wise it's a no brainer

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[–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Because my line of work means I working corporations, and they ALWAYS run everything on the big names, Microsoft and Oracle.

At home, I have choice. At work, I must swallow.

[–] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago

At home, I have choice. At work, I must swallow.

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[–] XenGi@lemmy.chaos.berlin 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yeah companies that choose otherwise are rare. But they do exist.

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[–] Something_Complex@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Even with search engines you can basically choose the Google index, the Microsoft index or the Amazon index

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[–] RocketBoots@programming.dev 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I wish I was a good enough dev to write a swift keys replacement. There's AnySoftKeyboard available, and they're doing an amazing job with swipe input which I prefer, but there's only so much one person can do.

[–] RacoonVegetable@reddthat.com 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] WikiBayer@feddit.de 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yet another reason to use Thunderbird or Evolution. There must finally be mobile devices with Linux that are usable.

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