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[–] rezz@lemmy.world 63 points 11 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

This is elite self-hosting, lol. I want more of this content.

[–] OverBiasedAndroid6L6@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Agreed. I do not have MyQ by choice, and I'm actively looking for a new solution now that I can't connect via Home assistant, but honestly I don't love either solution shared in this article. Perhaps someone in the community will reverse engineer the MyQ controllers or MIM the API to enable local network control (see local tuya)

[–] jemikwa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Our solution that we set up years ago was to connect a Shelly to circuits on a normal, dumb door opener. The Shelly triggers open/closed itself and since the signal comes from the opener, there's no crypto nonsense to figure out. It always works, no matter what MyQ/Chamberlain/LiftMaster do. Bonus, it also works if you have a very old opener.
We also supplemented this with a tilt sensor so we know the state of the garage door. The door can still be cracked and not registered as opened, but that's a compromise we're okay with since we never leave it intentionally cracked.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 7 points 11 months ago

The ratgdo seems to do everything MyQ did but locally. What's the issue?

[–] GiantPossum@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That would be neat, but I really doubt it will ever happen

What don't you like about ratgdo? It seems pretty good on paper, I've not yet got one in my hands. Hopefully soon

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago

Look into ratgdo. No need to replace the whole unit, and a much cheaper solution overall.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago

Right? I got half way through it before realizing I don't actually have a use for it right now. I love the detail and organization

[–] Dreadino@feddit.it 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I connected my sectional garage door using a Shelly 1, an Aqara vibration sensor and the contact sensor from my alarm system (but you can use an Aqara door sensor), using Home Assistant to create a "virtual" door that does all the things.

Put the vibration sensor around the bottom of the door. Connect the Shelly to the hardware button you have somewhere in your garage, set it to toggle off after 1 second (simulating a button click basically). In Home Assistant do something like this:

- platform: template
  covers:
    garage_door:
      device_class: garage
      friendly_name: "Garage Door"
      value_template: >-
        {% if is_state( "binary_sensor.garage_door_contact_sensor", "off") %}
          closed
        {% elif states( "sensor.garage_door_vibration_sensor_angle_y") | int < 10 %}
          open
        {% elif is_state( "binary_sensor.garage_door_vibration_sensor_vibration", "on") %}
          opening
        {% else %}
          open
        {%- endif %}
      open_cover:
        service: script.disarm_alarm_if_armed_then_open_garage_door
      close_cover:
        service: switch.turn_on
        data:
          entity_id: switch.garage_door_shelly_1
      stop_cover:
        service: switch.turn_on
        data:
          entity_id: switch.garage_door_shelly_1
      icon_template: >-
        {% if is_state( "binary_sensor.garage_door_contact_sensor", "off") %}
          mdi:garage
        {% elif states( "sensor.garage_door_vibration_sensor_angle_y") | int < 10 %}
          mdi:garage-open
        {% elif is_state( "binary_sensor.garage_door_vibration_sensor_vibration", "on") %}
          mdi:garage-alert
        {% else %}
          mdi:garage-open
        {%- endif %}

Basically if the contact sensor is off (means there is contact), the door is closed. If the vibration sensor angle is < 10 (check your values, this works for me), the door is open (the sections are now horizontal). If the vibration sensor senses vibrations, the door is currently moving. Otherwise report "open", because that's the worst state and if something doesn't work, I want the worst state to be reported. Now you have a "cover", which in Home Assistant is a class that has custom UIs and logic to handle the door. Whenever I click the open button or call the command from anywhere, "disarm_alarm_if_armed_then_open_garage_door" is called, meaning I can't make the alarm go off by accident.

I have an automation that when I get near my house, it checks if my alarm is on and sends me a notification with 2 actions:

  • disarm alarm
  • disarm alarm and open garage door

PS: Looking back at my code, I should add a condition to both "open_cover" and "close_cover", to check if the door is opening, making it fail (or just do nothing), because while moving, pressing the button would stop the door, not make it go in the reverse direction. But it's been 4 months with this integration and it works great.

[–] Slappula@lemmy.zip 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ordered two Ratgdos yesterday. Hopefully the wait isn't too long.

[–] GiantPossum@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What I can't figure out now is if I want to replace OpenGarage when my Ratgdo arrives. It has a lot more features, but do I care now I have OpenGarage setup? Unsure

[–] Slappula@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago

After all that work and documentation?! I say stick with Open Garage!

[–] rouxdoo@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (4 children)

lol, just get a dumb opener and a shelly relay or use a meross unit. Super cheap and flawless local control that is cloud-connected if you want it.

[–] JoeHill@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I use a Meross. Works very well with HomeKit.

MyQ was always a piece of garbage for me. Damn thing would error out and become non responsive after 5-10 openings, and would require a reboot. Could never figure out the root issue. Tech support was worthless. My hunch is that it doesn’t play nicely with Unifi equipment, or I’m getting interference from industrial sites nearby.

[–] Madagarian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have the same issues as you; to make matters worse, it doesn't like any of the Android phones I have so I have to borrow someone's iPhone just to hook the damn thing back up.

[–] JoeHill@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Unless you absolutely need MyQ because of a 3rd party integration, I’d really suggest ditching it. The only problem I’ve ever had with the Meross was when my local DNS (AdGuard Home) got flaky — and I can’t really blame that on Meross. Other than that, it’s been rock solid.

[–] Madagarian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago

I absolutely plan to. It's an unreliable piece of shit.

[–] Contend6248@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

There is more to it with garage doors, what about the current state of the door, do you only want to open it a little bit for more fresh air and close it afterwards, bonus, is a car in there

One relay doesn't fix this, it is simple but not that simple

[–] jemikwa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 months ago

We added a tilt sensor to our door that shows the state of the door for the most part. The threshold we have it at doesn't detect if it's partly open, but that's okay for us because we never leave it cracked

[–] GiantPossum@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't know about him, but I really don't want to be screwing around replacing my openers

[–] rouxdoo@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Most openers have a dumb switch interface. A simple close-to-change circuit - I've never had one that wasn't that way. If MyQ is so complicated (serial interface!?) then it needs to go anyway.

[–] GiantPossum@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Right, but the opener is already there and installed. Plus, it does give you all the information and control over that interface. Buying a ratgdo for $30 and adding it into your Liftmaster opener is still a better situation than a dumb opener and a dumb switch. The dumb switch doesn't give you open/closed/stopped status, lights, etc.

If I were to buy a new opener, I would probably get a liftmaster + ratgdo again anyway

[–] rouxdoo@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

The cheap-as-dirt meross does, it has an open/closed sensor.

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I think the newer liftmasters are wireless. The old push button wires are just power for the wireless remote.

[–] legion02@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Seconding the meross recommendation. Installed it about a year ago and it's been flawless.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

Happy customer of open garage. It just worked for me.

[–] arymandias@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No idea what this is about but upvoted for the cats

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 11 months ago

I thought you were calling me a cat

[–] Nomad64@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Great post with lots of detail! I have had MyQ for years and hated it pretty much at first use. Back then, they were asking for a monthly fee for the "privilege" of integrating it with Google.

Since the MyQ integration for HA is now dead, I have ordered a Ratgdo and am patiently waiting for it to arrive. I tried the Anthom.tech opener, but that does not work with most Chamberlain/Lift master opener made after 2011.

[–] Wojwo@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

I've been using an open garage device I ordered from https://opengarage.io/ for years. It works great with home assistant or by itself. (their opensprinkler control is great too)

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I've got one of these with the esphome firmware. Can't speak to their service or the original firmware, but the esphome needed some tweaks.

https://konnected.io/products/smart-garage-door-opener

I already had a magnetic reed switch and it has an input for that. I already had an extra security 2.0 button with wires soldered to the contacts. I'm very happy with the setup.

[–] DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I use a Wemos D1 mini and relay with esphome, and a reed switch. Our door is a panel roller, so I'm looking to add a hall effect sensor to determine %age opened/closed, so I can do things like open just a couple of inches for airflow, etc.