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Has any Arsenal fans asked to see the panels bank statements yet!?!?! I dont want to miss that bitching.

It’s genuinely sad that many Arsenal fans lost the high ground on the limitations of current VAR and instead pivoted to direct corruption.

You genuinely think Saudi Arabia (who has nearly 4 times as much money as the next richest owner) would risk thier sports washing on some bribes instead of just building a fucking juggernaut of a team/club.

I hate the fact that PIF owns us and Saudi Arabia is taking a larger role in football as much as the next guy BUT the lot that was hysterical look foolish right now

This goal is never giving against other teams

Day light robbery

For context 2/5ths of this panel apparently think it’s not a red card to elbow players as retaliation so I’m gonna not take the rest of their takes seriously 👍

The Newcastle goal could have been ruled out but I think it fails the very important test. Say that was the other way around and it's Gabriel pushing Joelinton. Does anyone seriously believe there wouldn't be the same level of uproar about this if the referee had given a penalty?

For all the anger over this, rightly or wrongly. A better defender just heads the ball forwards instead of trying to be cute and flick it on.

He (and White for switching off and not being in a position to stop the cross) is at fault for the goal more than anyone else.

Karen FC will never let it go regardless

Laughable.

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Panel says Newcastle goal vs. Arsenal was correct decision

"The Premier League's Independent Key Match Incidents Panel has ruled the referee and the VAR were correct to award Newcastle United's winning goal against Arsenal on Saturday -- but the officials missed two red cards.

Arsenal boss Mikel Arteta was furious that Anthony Gordon's winning goal was allowed to stand by referee Stuart Attwell, with three separate VAR checks for the ball being out of play, a foul on Gabriel by Joelinton and offside against the goal scorer. On all three checks the VAR, Andy Madley, could not find conclusive evidence of an offence.

Arsenal as a club doubled down on their criticism of referee on Sunday, issuing a statement in support of Arteta.

The panel's findings, seen by ESPN, said on a 4-1 vote that "although Joelinton does have his hands on Gabriel, there isn't enough to award a foul as Gabriel had made an action to play the ball before any contact," while also upholding the view there wasn't enough proof to cancel the goal on the two factual offences.

However, the panel was unanimous that Kai Havertz should have been sent off for Arsenal in the 36th minute for his challenge on Sean Longstaff as it was "a very dangerous challenge and the type of tackle that needs to be eradicated" -- a decision which would have altered the direction of the game.

Bruno Guimarães' arm to the head of Arsenal's Jorginho in the 45th minute was also a missed red card, but on a split 3-2 decision.

The panel has five members, made up of three former players and/or coaches, plus one representative each from the Premier League and PGMOL. It was set up at the start of last season to give an independent assessment of decision-making rather than relying on the views of PGMOL or the clubs themselves. The judgement is intended to provide an arm's-length assessment of all major match incidents.

Elsewhere, the decision to award a mach-winning injury-time penalty to Sheffield United against Wolverhampton Wanderers was also unanimously viewed to be incorrect -- the second time the VAR has incorrectly failed to overturn a spot kick against Gary O'Neil's side in consecutive weeks.

All other refereeing decisions last weekend, including those in the Tottenham Hotspur vs. Chelsea game, were assessed as being correct."

Having read through the article and the decisions/comments made by The Premier League's Independent Key Match Incidents Panel, I now also have no respect for/trust in them either. Marking their own friends' exams in a calculated fashion to ease pressure and disregard controversial calls. Not sure what I was honestly expecting tbh

I'd love to know the make up of each panel. If the PGM and Premier League are serious about transparency then this is a minimum.

Its funny how Brunos hit would be illegal even in boxing or MMA as a hit to the back of the head, but football panel thinks its okay and not enough force behind it.. fucking morons.

Does anyone care what this panel says ever?

btw op Samurai Champloo is goated good on you

Fair enough, that's how it seemed.

Shame it took the best part of a week of hot air about it first.

Fair enough. Personally I still think it's a foul on Gabriel but it's inconclusive so I've got to go with the on field decision.

Arsenal didn't do enough to win that game, Newcastle scored that goal and defended well. Well played to them.

It was a feisty and close affair. Lost at SJP but I think we matched their energy well in the game.

Arteta has a right to think it shouldn't be given though. He maybe went overboard with the "disgrace" comment but Arsenal have had the most apologies from PGMOL in the last 2 seasons. I think the reaction wasn't purely based on the Newcastle game.

You have a panel voting 4-1 that it wasn’t a foul.

You have two former defenders on commentary saying it wasn’t a foul.

You have the on the pitch referees deeming it not a foul.

You have the VAR team deeming it wasn’t a foul.

Do people here honestly think so many people are corrupt or inept?

Anyone who’s had some experience of playing football at even a semi competitive level will know that Gabriel was ducking in an attempt to head the ball over. In the immediate aftermath of the goal he didn’t even complain about the foul, he complained about the ball being out.

I honestly think had this incident happened in isolation—outside the two other incidents—then no one would be talking about this anymore. Yet somehow Arsenal fans seem to think that because there were three 50/50 decisions involved in the goal it should somehow amount to 150% certainty that the goal should be disallowed.

The hysteria of some redditors' reactions matches that of Arteta. Talk about embarrassing and ashamed

Just in case anybody was wondering, this is the current top r/soccer post when you sort by controversial

Que even more Gunners whingeing, games finished, decision reviewed, your manager is going to be fined for blubbing hospital eyes out all over the telly. Just get on with it. Toon toon.