Russia has been living in "counteraction and struggle" with external "bad enemies" for a very long time. This is how the Russian government consolidates society and explains all the problems to it.

Therefore Solovyov is right - they will not stop.

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[–] koolkiwi@lemmy.world 87 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean of course they won't stop at Kyiv. They can't reach it.

[–] XYZinferno@lemmy.basedcount.com 9 points 1 year ago

Oh that's one hell of a one-liner, I like it!

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

lol. Blyats can’t take Ukraine and NATO hasn’t done more than supply weapons and intelligence.

[–] XYZinferno@lemmy.basedcount.com 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If the west needs any more encouragement to assist Ukraine, here it is.

The choice is help Ukraine now, or kick the can down the road and lament when Russia is at your borders.

[–] havocpants@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

The choice is help Ukraine now, or kick the can down the road and lament when Russia is at your borders.

That might seem scarier if they weren't nearly 2 years into their 3 day war against their smaller, poorer next-door neighbour.

Russia is a terrorist shithole state that needs to be dismantled. I wish my country was doing more than providing arms and training.

[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because Russia is being invaded so often.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

It's Nazi Germany all over again. Once you declared "total war" there is no way to escalate further and also no way to back down again.

[–] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Then just die of fright you absolutely cowards, if you think that defending hospitals, schools and civilian apartment buildings is a threat to Russia then just die. If you think a free and honest press is a threat to your government then just die because no sane person will look at your actions and let you continue unabated

[–] GiuseppeAndTheYeti@midwest.social 23 points 1 year ago

Wish a bitch would try...we could finally end this war.

[–] joneskind@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do Russians people truly believe they would stand a chance against the whole fucking NATO?

Propaganda is one thing, but that’s pure delusion.

[–] LaFinlandia@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago

*Suicidal ideation

[–] XYZinferno@lemmy.basedcount.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's why I imagine the Russian government has been trying to frame this as "self-defense" to its own people, when it's clearly the opposite.

They know that people will go to extreme lengths to fight when they believe they're fighting defensively, for their own people, sovereignty, safety, etc. To that end, it won't matter if they can realistically defeat NATO- they just want their own people to die trying.

[–] joneskind@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While I hear what you're saying I have yet to witness where did the Ukrainian people strike in Russian land.

Also, where are we in that "fight against satanistic nazis" story? Does anybody in Russia truly believes that shit, or are they just applying their centuries old ~~coward~~ self-defense skills against tyrant?

[–] Styxie@feddit.nl 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From the Russian point of view, Russian speaking Ukrainians are their fellow citizens. The Russians claim Ukraine is mistreating them and invade to protect "Russians" in DPR/LPR. It's total bullshit, but it fits Russian's desire to be seen as both victims and heroes in their own psychodrama about the war.

[–] interolivary@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

From the Russian point of view, Russian speaking Ukrainians are their fellow citizens

But they also see Ukrainians as less-than compared to ethnic Russians. No minority in Russia is truly counted as "real" Russian, and they even have a separate word for "Russians who aren't ethnic Russians": россияне or rossiyane, where the word for "real" Russians is русский or russkiy.

[–] _s10e@feddit.de 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is this a declaration of war? Against NATO??

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty much sounds like a declaration of war against Poland and France, and thus NATO to me.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Bingo.

[–] ensignrick@startrek.website 15 points 1 year ago

Copium.

[–] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

You have to have leverage to negotiate. Is losing 500k standing troops a leverage position?

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Only Russian aggression has made Russia insecure. Because now their borders are disputed.
Russia could have been perfectly secure, by just being a decent neighbor, and not invade other countries.

[–] Tavonyms@mastodon.social 10 points 1 year ago

@LaFinlandia
Says the most insecure, paranoid country in the world.

[–] 018118055@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Россия delenda est

[–] interolivary@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wish. There's not going to be much delenda-ing of Russia thanks to nuclear weapons being a thing

[–] 018118055@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its predecessor collapsed because of various factors. It doesn't have to be a special military operation.

[–] interolivary@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's true, I was more going off the original phrase's meaning: "Carthago delenda est" translates to "Carthage must be destroyed", and I didn't take a reference to it mean eg. an implosion like with the Soviet union but an active destruction by someone

[–] 018118055@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

I think it'll be a bit of both. The USSR collapse was partly due to economic factors caused outside itself. Russia relies on exporting resources to support itself economically. Even China might see the advantage in the dissolution of the federation allowing it to enhance influence in regional republics in the East. Russia is not self-sufficient in many aspects and sanctions are gradually squeezing.

[–] RedditReject@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reminds me of this :

https://youtu.be/64DCO2sI7fI?si=R9BGqv1i0SS8PQ90

[–] LaFinlandia@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

A new movie to watch, thank you!

[–] Historical_General@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

We must fight wokeness on the beaches, the waterfronts and elsewhere. We shall never surrender.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There was some interesting, supposedly intelligence chatter during the Crimea invasion, that russia was willing to go as far as nuke warsaw to hold their claims. There was discussion that in the cold war in the 1950’s, russia was a victor, and responding from a position of strength - but the men ruling today come from a collapsed country and feel the need to do whatever it takes to feel respected.

[–] MayonnaiseArch@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

The men ruling today are collapsed themselves, this is a pathetic show of hyper masculine murderers who just so happen to be dickless impotent yes men. It's more scary today looking at the quality of leadership

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russia becoming North Korea

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Ah yes famously expanding North Korea.

[–] runiq@feddit.de -4 points 1 year ago

Yeah no. Sorry, OP, gonna downvote that buttface.