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[–] Neon@lemmy.world 102 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Only 3 years of updates for such an expensive phone?

I'm really glad i got the Fairphone 5 instead.

[–] random65837@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

How long did you expect a total flop to keep getting updates?

I'm really glad i got the Fairphone 5 instead.

I highly doubt you made the call between a Fold that came out 4 yrs ago vs a totally different in every way phone that literally just came out.

[–] wasney@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

How little? They do 4 years of OS and 5 years of security updates on the newest phones. That's pretty fair to me.

[–] Neon@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

No, you're right, i made an Error there. I was looking at the new Fold and almost bought the new Flip as a small android phone instead. But still, seeing how little updates Samsung Flagships get, i am very happy.

[–] QueriesQueried@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

Not that you didn't make the right call, but many of the longer software update "confirmations" (obviously they're only worth something if they commit to that) happened around that time. Almost any android phone didn't have more than a couple years of support, until very recently. Naturally, no brand is going to backtrack that far, especially for a completely new phone concept that they knew was going to have issues.

Something can be said about that on its own, but first gen devices always carry first gen issues, and the news (both people and articles) of the time was very vocal about such. Personally I'm on the side of providing long software support, but not extending to hardware (in niche cases).

[–] random65837@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Fair enough

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah this is disheartening. Depending on where you live this comes out to ~€600 per year of up-to-date phone. For many that'll be acceptable, but it's ridiculous to think about, considering my Fairphone 4, if I use it just to the end of full support coverage, will cost me ~€100 a year. And that is already high IMO.

[–] kniescherz@feddit.de 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Thats 50€ a month, its ridiculous and a punch on the mouth for those who supported the product in such an early stage.

As a comparison, I am using an S20FE 5G which I got for 300€ two years ago. Thats 12,50 per month and it still gets updates. Sure thats no high end phone, but I dont miss anything, fast OLED screen, 500GB storage through sd card, blazing fast, good camera.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 7 points 10 months ago

It's shameful for Samsung, but I doubt many of the owners are hugely inconvenienced by this, it was always a toy for early adopters with disposable income.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It said so on the tin. Sometimes this news make it sound like someone suddenly decided to fuck customers over, but this was the plan all along. Newer, more robust versions and designs are getting more time. Samsung is one of the few Android vendors who actually follow through with their support promises. Even if software updates and OS security updates stop, the phone software itself will continue to receive security updates to the user shell modules like Google Play services for another 6 years. OneUI perhaps for half of that time. The phone will likely continue to work just fine for all that while. It always sucks when there are articles that frame “company did today what they said they were gonna do today, 4 years ago!?” like some sort of gotcha. If you didn't want in on the deal, that's on you from 4 years ago. Samsung did exactly what they said they were gonna do with their experimental prototype toy. They have worked out the kinks and newer phones get longer support times now they're established products.

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Are you in the US? How does it work when imported?

Are you using Google services? Do you put them in a different profile? Did other ROMs find a workaround over the new implementation of work profiles that Android 14 is pushing?

[–] poke@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago

I know they're doing all that they promised but I feel so bad for the owners since the next version of Android will have some nice improvements for foldable phones.

[–] JuanR@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Save the article and use it for the pixel 8 in 3 years.

[–] KrummsHairyBalls@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Google has kept every Pixel update promise so far. Why would you assume the 8 wouldn't get the updates they promised?

They quite literally have a perfect Pixel track record.

Samsung is the company that promises updates and then releases them on carrier locked phones and for some random reason not the unlocked variants, and then claim they fulfilled their promise lmao