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[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 164 points 1 year ago
[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not the US government, republicans and one random house dem that seems to hate technology.

[–] knyuqlr@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

oMg boTh sIdeS aRe nOt tHe sAmE.... except for when it comes to eroding freedoms

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not the US government, republicans and one random house dem that seems to hate technology.

Whose the Dem?

[–] RustyShackleford@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

What about the other 20?

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] MiscreantMouse@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

WTF then he isn't a Democrat if he co authoring bills with Graham.

[–] QubaXR@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

Somehow it never crossed their minds to stop selling firearms to teens, but vendor Internet in the name of protecting kids? Sign us up. Fuck that.

Pretty much any bill, worldwide, that includes the phrase "project kids" is always about pushing censorship, government surveillance and other forms of oppression on everyone. And guess what: zero actual benefit to kids.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is quite scary. I don't know if it being on the calendar means they're guaranteed to vote on it but the text of the bill would completely fuck the Fediverse. You literally need paid personnel to comply with these regulations.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/3663/all-actions?overview=closed#tabs

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 year ago

Host somewhere else. They're not the world police.

[–] Bizarroland@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

I guess we'll just become criminals and host our servers in countries that actually respect freedom.

[–] whataboutshutup@discuss.online 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why old men are so obsessed with kids? Are they pedo or something?

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 48 points 1 year ago

It's never about kids. If they gave half a fuck about kids, we'd have free school lunches and teachers would be paid a fair salary.

So long as the internet is around to distribute fact-checks and officer-involved homicide videos they have no plausible lies by which the 80% of us in poverty or precarity should tolerate the abuse of plutocrats and capitalists.

So this is a first amendment issue: it's about suppression of political speech. It always was 🌍 👩‍🚀 🔫 👨‍🚀 🌑

[–] T156@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

They're a convenient scapegoat. You can accuse the other side of not caring about/endangering children for political points, and children don't have politically-relevant opinions, or votes, so you're never going to have children speaking up and going "that's not correct", or protesting against you for a law you've passed. If they do end up protesting, you can point fingers at the parents and say that they're indoctrinating the children.

[–] mPony@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

every time they say it's to "protect the children" or "protect freedom" it is invariably neither.

[–] viliam@feddit.ch 24 points 1 year ago

Fine, so who will be judging if there's a depressive content on the internet, a psychologist? Also how about non-US sites, will they be banned or something?

Perhaps politicians should concentrate on making it so there's less depressing stuff in the world for anyone to see and hear, and not creating more of it with things like this rubbish bill. 🤷‍♀️

[–] pglpm@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Culturally we're going back to the Middle Ages...

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Specifically the Dark Ages.

[–] ccf@ccf.sh 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] karrbs@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

Isn't this also the bill that could screw up encryption too?

[–] Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev 18 points 1 year ago

woah no way

in other news, every sixty seconds in Africa, a minute passes.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

it has nothing to do with protecting children and everything to do with destroying privacy

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

why is it always the worst laws proposed under the guise of protecting children

[–] jantin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Because you can't argue that. Any other ground reason for policy can be challenged or counterargued or relies on values which are arguable.

No one is going to plainly argue "ok but how about we do not protect children?". And if someone tries a different angle such as "this law is not really going to protect anyone and will bring a lot of problems for children and adults alike" it will be easily dismissed as "you insidious snake, why do you want to hurt children?! Don't sabotage child protection!". Which autokills conversation.

[–] infyrin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Let's use it against the government, they want to "care" about kids and steer them away from depression and anxiety? How about stop making the world suck for them. Because you can white wash any news report online about bad things happening, but it won't mean the practice has stopped.

[–] Natha@discuss.online 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't it something that China has been doing for a while? In their version, it's called 'spreading positive energy'.

[–] jsnc@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

It's almost like everything the US said about China was just a projection of their own insecurities.

It might get to a point where China actually is relatively more liberating than "stable democracies" in internet access.

[–] hellfire103@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

What else is new?

This doesn't seem different from what many if not most major platforms are already doing voluntarily. Just replace the word "depressing" with the word "toxic" and suddenly everyone will support this.

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

This headline could have been written 20 years ago.

[–] iMastari@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Protect kids from guns would be better.

[–] EnderWi99in@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Jack O'Neil's son would still be alive today if he didn't get a hold of his father's gun. But then we wouldn't have Stargate. It's sort of a toss up to me.

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Good luck with that. They can't even stop child abuse online and that's an actual problem that should be solved.

Dunno why you're being downvoted

[–] ProfessorZhu@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why take a principled stand against those who are pushing this when you can just say "government" and leave everyone thinking this is a bipartisan problem?

[–] vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago

Because it is a bipartisan problem.